Bald Guys On The Bench
Bald Guys On The Bench
From Florida Sunshine to Eagles Roars
Recorded January 27th, 2025
What happens when a weekend in Florida unexpectedly leads to the NFC Championship game in Philadelphia? Join us on the Bald Guys on the Bench podcast as we share Scott's whirlwind adventure from sunshine to the electric atmosphere at Lincoln Financial Field. Eagles fans may have a notorious reputation, but Scott's first-hand experience proves otherwise, revealing a surprising camaraderie among rival supporters with shared drinks and unexpected hospitality. We dive into the emotional highs and lows that come with being a football fan and the unique environment where fans of different teams unite in sportsmanship.
Curious about the secret behind the Philadelphia Eagles' recent success? We unpack the strategic brilliance of General Manager Howie Roseman and the impact of standout players like Jalen Carter and Devonta Smith. The MVP debate heats up as we consider Saquon Barkley's chances amidst the quarterback bias. The aftermath of the Bills vs. Chiefs game fuels our lively discussion, highlighting the Chiefs' adaptability and some controversial calls that left us all talking. Our conversation touches on how the coaching legacies of Bill Belichick and Andy Reid would fare in today's NFL dynamics.
To wrap things up, we share some playful banter, a signature of our dynamic friendship. There's gratitude, a bit of humor, and a cheeky nod to Scott's semi-allegiance to the Eagles, all served with a side of good-natured ribbing. We bid farewell to our listeners with a wink and a nod to Buffalo fans, wishing them some table-jumping antics of their own. It's all about capturing the essence of sports talk, friendship, and a weekend full of unexpected adventures.
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Welcome to another episode of the Bald Guys on the Bench podcast, with your hosts Graham Cohen and Scott Wasco.
Graham:What's up everyone. Welcome back to another episode of the Bald Guys on the Bench. Hey, the Super Bowl is set. It is what it is, scott. How you doing, brother, how was?
Scott:your weekend. I'm doing good. Been on the move. Last week when we chatted I was going to Florida, Then, like I talked about on the episode, going to the NFC championship game in Philly. But before we get into anything and talk about weekends and all that, you know what time it is. Grab it and crack it. My brother, let's do it.
Graham:Let's go.
Scott:So my weekend is going to be a long talk, so let's jump into yours real quick and then we'll get into mine. Fair point. We got a lot to talk about. We got heads to turn, we got mouths to drop. We got a lot of listeners that are going to be shocked at what I'm going to say about my weekend, and we're just going to start with you.
Graham:Well, mine was definitely nowhere near as exciting as yours, that's for damn sure. Just you know. Had work this past week. Everything was good, but the one good thing was I had Sunday off so I could sit at home and watch ball all day. I mean, I was excited to have the day off so I could watch ball all day and chat with you. But someone had other ideas. But obviously you'll get into that yeah, how selfish of me.
Graham:Yeah, exactly, see folks, exactly, so pretty basic over here. I mean, that being said, the floor is yours. I mean, fill us in, brother, how was your weekend?
Scott:Well, we talked about it on the episode last week. I got the invite right before we got on air to go to the game into Philly about 10, 15, hung out with Maddie before the game had some beverages got into the stadium. I had no idea what to expect. I had no clue. I'm just going to start the weekend off by saying this Eagles fans, y'all got a bad rap. The national media shows all the bad shit. Nothing I saw yesterday was worse than I've seen in any other stadium. Not saying it was a little more rowdier, but I will go and say this Eagles fans, you earned my respect yesterday. That stadium was electric. That place was insane.
Scott:I told Kristen Kellen, my dad and a couple other buddies I've never experienced anything like it going to NFL games and I was shocked to say that, granted, we went into Philadelphia not wearing the team. I was pulling for his colors, number one, I don't own any of that. But right, number two, we sat down in our seats. The guide to the right of me looks at me, an older gentleman and he goes. So who you pulling for? The birds or the commanders he's like, who are you a fan of? And I didn't say anything. Kind of looked at him funny. He goes why you give me that weird look? And I'm like I'm a fan of the chargers? And he goes why the hell are you here? And I'm like, well, I'm supporting the commanders. And he's like, why is that? And I told him, you know, and he goes okay, makes sense. And he goes. Well, if you guys are winning at any point of the game, he goes. Just do me a favor and be respectful, because my brother and I we've had season tickets since the old days at the vet, and the 10 people in front of us they've also had season tickets since the vet. We've sat here the whole time.
Scott:That link has been opened and I'm like, bro, right, you got nothing to worry about me and my two buddies right here, we're having fun, we're fans of the game, we're fans of sports, we're just here. It just so happens the guy next to me is friends with somebody that is associated with the commanders. He goes I got it. Okay, let's fast forward. I'm gonna. I'm gonna skip around. Okay, a lot, I'm sure, because I've got so many things I want to talk about. My guy bought us beers. Okay, next to me, the people in front of us were buying us beers. My guy, my guy, my guy snuck in a bottle of fireball. Which number one. That was super weird because atcomm you had to empty everything out of your pockets. Nothing going into the link.
Graham:Was it a plastic bottle? I don't know it was Fireball.
Scott:That's all I care about.
Scott:It would have to be Dude, it doesn't matter, we were ripping whatever it was, awesome it was. I knew I was going to have a good time and I knew that Matty, myself and his brother weren't going to be cheering for the commanders out loud Just because of the horror stories you've heard, right, and we've seen, yeah, and that we've seen, and you know know, the commander's first drive. I mean, I think they went for it on fourth down, like 87 times and like, yep, the first fourth down they got. Maddie looks at me and whispers to me he goes you have no idea, but you and I are high-fiving in my mind right now and i'm'm like, yeah, exactly, it's so classic, right? So he's like we're high-fiving, I'm like I got it. So then, when the fake punt happened, maddie and I are literally standing up elbowing each other like let's go, let's go, let's go, but being quiet.
Graham:But anyhow, yeah of of course it was awesome, it was cool.
Scott:It was cooler than I thought you know. Granted we were. We had amazing seats because somebody with commanders got us tickets. I'm sure the riffraff way up top different story, right, without a doubt a couple of things.
Graham:Why are you saying that guy that works for him? We pretty much said it on the last episode. Is it like secret information?
Scott:now, we never mentioned his name on the last episode. Are you sure about that? Yeah, and we never have, even when we went and sat in his suite.
Graham:Huh all right, my bad, I mean I.
Scott:I thought I'd have to check the takes, but I mean I believe I'm almost positive why you're being so secretive. Not that it matters.
Graham:I mean it don't matter. No, no, no, it doesn't matter.
Scott:I mean I told all of Philadelphia because I was trying to big league them.
Graham:so I mean Well, that's also my next point, and you mentioned it. Obviously, the seats that you got in the section where you were and you're with you know, diehards, from what the sound of it are older. If you were sitting in a different section, I promise you the high praises of the time that you had would be completely different.
Scott:I mean, I'm not saying these people were all super old. There were some younger people and in fact, the guy sitting right next to Maddie's brother, was younger than us and super cool, and it all comes down to this.
Graham:Yeah, but I'm saying, if you're sitting in the third level and up.
Scott:Yeah, it all comes down to this dude, and I had the conversation with a lot of people yesterday that were Birds fans. I'm not calling them Eagles anymore, I like calling them Birds. It's better, because all I heard yesterday after the game was Go Birds, go Birds. I'm like oh man, sick. Anyhow, it was amazing, dude. I'm just going to say this the loyalty of their fans. If I wasn't a Chargers fan and this is where the mouth is going to drop I would be an Eagles fan.
Graham:You know what? Go fuck yourself. I'm done with you.
Scott:I enjoyed it. I really was amazed, was shocked.
Graham:I don't Wow. You said that in front of me. Audrey's going to hear this oh she's going to kill me. Oh, my God, you know what? You still haven't been to a Steelers game with me in Pittsburgh, so I don't want to hear shit. I can tell you right now don't care those fans in Philadelphia. What? What makes them so special?
Scott:I don't know, man, I don't know. I don't know how to describe it. I have no idea, graham, I don't know. All I know is I told Kristen and Kellen on the way home I'm like look next year when they play the Broncos at home. Kellen and I are driving to Philadelphia to watch the Eagles boat race the Broncos because I want Kellen to experience that.
Graham:Wow, well, you weren't lying when you said you had the jaw-dropping comment before the podcast.
Scott:Oh my, I just I don't know man. I was shocked, graham. I was literally shocked. You know what else shocked me, and I texted you about it what I thought I'd seen? It all in an NFL stadium until I walked into the bathroom at halftime and saw a chick pass out in the guy's bathroom. What, what yeah.
Graham:And she was a dime too, I bet Like.
Scott:I texted you yesterday when you asked don't make me answer that, but after the game? You know we're not even talking details of the game yet. After the game, broad Street was so sick, roads blocked, everybody walking around drinking beer, doing their thing, chanting Go Birds, like. Whatever you see on the news and on ESPN, the coverage of it does it no justice until you see it with your own eyes.
Graham:All right.
Scott:I mean, maddie and I go get dinner and I'm like, dude, I got to go outside real quick and get a video of this. And that's the one. I sent you the video of the fireworks that I actually posted on our bald guys Instagram earlier. And I was like I can't believe this is going on right now. And your response when I sent you the video you're like, yeah, that looks safe. Safety is the last thing on these people's minds right now. But I don't know, dude, it was just. It was amazing from the beginning when the Eagle came flying down during the National Anthem to I don't know. I forgive Eagles fans or, well, I shouldn't say that, hopefully, any Eagle fan that listens to our podcast when I talk shit about them, I'm going to go ahead and just throw it out here and I'm going to smack myself in the face. They threw snowballs at Santa Claus and said he deserved it. I'm going to go out there and say it right now. You know what he probably deserved it.
Graham:You know what?
Scott:I just smacked myself three times Okay.
Graham:You know, just because you had the one in a fucking million chance of having the most spectacular time trip everything the before, the after, the dinner, the cookies, the cheesesteak. That's amazing. I'm happy for you. But if the Eagles would have lost in a nail biter, that place would have been lit on fire and you would not be saying the same fucking thing yeah, I would, because it would have been amazing to watch it been lit on fire.
Graham:Yeah, but would you still be saying the same thing of oh, I need to take my son there and oh, da-da-da-da-da-da, yeah, because that place was electric dude Electric Gr.
Scott:That place was electric, dude, electric. Granted, it was the NFC Championship game. I will say this, though First time ever going to an NFL game, and my seat never hit the ass the entire time, we never sat down.
Graham:Well, yeah, because everyone was standing, you got to see.
Scott:Dude. I looked at the guy next to me that I was just talking about and I was like bro, do you ever sit in your seat? Is this like something? Just because of this game? And he goes no, we never sit.
Graham:You pay for a seat that doesn't even.
Scott:I was like that's insane. Wow, right, I mean I joke on Andy for having two teams and I don't have two teams.
Graham:Now you're up to like four. Now Four, yeah, okay, three Chargers. Now you're Redskins. Now you want to adopt the Eagles you root for because of me. For the Steelers to win, it's just like be loyal to one team bro.
Scott:I am loyal to one team.
Graham:Just get a tattoo of a bolt on your arm or your shoulder. You can't say oh, I'm going to start going to.
Scott:I am loyal to one team, yeah, and when I moved here I pulled for the commanders because of Taylor. You know. Obviously Taylor's not there anymore. I rooted for Washington this year for a couple reasons. Number one is I bet on they're over and the wins, and I bet on Jayden Daniels for offensive rookie of the year, and because the person that got me into the NFC championship game for free is buddies with one of my good friends and that is Cliff Kingsbury. So wherever Cliff goes, I pull for and always will, not that I pull for him against the.
Scott:Chargers, even though I'm sitting in his coach's suite and I can't pull for him. But wherever he goes, I'll pull for it. But I used to. You know, I hated on the Eagles, dude. I can't hate on them anymore. I can't. They changed my mind, dude. I can't hate on them anymore. I can't. They changed my mind, dude. They changed my mind.
Scott:When I'm watching, I'll just say this and this is any franchise Hold on. When I'm sitting there with these dudes that are talking to me and they've been season ticket holders for that long and granted, you know same what happened to me. You know same what happened to me. If I'm there during the AFC championship game watching my Chargers win, your boy's going to be sobbing like a schoolgirl. These people are like crying and hugging, and I loved it because all I could picture was me at Qualcomm, where I sat for 14 years, and the family of people that I sat next to, rob Trevor and all his boys, all the guys around us experiencing that and thinking, god, I never got to experience it. Yeah, you've been at SoFi for three years. Sofi ain't shit. There's no family at SoFi. Qualcomm had the true families of season ticket holders and I was imagining all of us going through what they went through and I thought it was super cool and, like I said, yeah, I had a great weekend. It was awesome.
Scott:I wanted Washington to win. Obviously, we'll get into that in a second. They caught lightning in a bottle. They caught Detroit without defense Indoor game, fast the end, but it was sick. It changed my mind, dude, it did. I will say the complex where Lincoln Financial is it's also literally the whole complex is where the Phillies play, the Eagles play and the Flyers and Sixers it's all one area. Oh, wow, yeah. And like in LA by the Staples Center, what's the place called Live or whatever it's called? Yeah, all the bars and stuff they had. Yeah, it's called L's. Yeah, all the bars and stuff they had.
Graham:Yeah, it's called la live.
Scott:Yeah, la live. They had something similar and it's called xfinity live and we were going to go there. There's like 40 bars and stuff. Let me just tell you, the line to get in and we got on property around noon was maybe three quarters of a mile long. Oh, I believe it Like, yeah, no, we're good, but anyhow, amazing experience. I don't even know. I know it's weird dude. I told Tristan I'm like I can't even believe I'm saying this right now, you know.
Graham:I'm just going to say this and I'll leave it alone For such a great time that you had in the experience, I hope that if you do take Kellen to the Broncos-Eagles game, I hope you have the same experience and you don't get the latter, which everyone sees on social media.
Scott:Oh no, we'll be cheering for the Eagles.
Graham:I hope you have that experience what you going to wear green Maybe.
Scott:I mean, I ain't wearing orange.
Graham:It's been a while, but I haven't said this. Folks, You're unbelievable, You're Ding ding, ding, ding, ding ding.
Scott:I don't know dude.
Graham:I'm still shocked, dude okay dude, my, I don't even know what to say, but I got something written down, something that we ask all the time how much was the beer?
Scott:well, I do remember this one, even though I had more than I had at the Patriots game. Uh, I only had one at the Patriots game. I only had one at the Patriots game. Don't remember? Beers were $17.
Scott:all right and it was for 24 ounce tall boy, which you know good beer. Well, I uh miller light all day. They didn't have coors light, they didn't have ultra. I was drinking miller light all day, but anybody that listens has heard me talk about it. I'm a big pretzel guy. At stadiums and out of everywhere I've been, they got the best pretzel. I don't know.
Graham:I don't know, man, yeah, but they don't got those bacon wrapped glizzies though.
Scott:No, they don't walk out of there, but also had a cheesesteak today before I hit the road. Oh baby, you, oh baby you Folks, if you've never been to Philly and you can't believe the hype. Believe it, believe it. There's way too much praise for that city. As much as I hate their baseball team, I can't believe I'm talking about this, but whatever. Before we get into the game't believe I'm talking about this, but whatever. Before we get into the game, I'm just going to do this. I hated that sound.
Graham:Anyhow, tell you one thing it ain't no renegade.
Scott:I know.
Graham:It's way better Shut the front door. You know what? I'm just pissing you off. Why am I friends with you sometimes?
Scott:I'm just pissing you off to piss you off. Anyhow, let's jump right into the game, dude. Okay, we haven't even started talking about the game, I'm just going to start off. I had a little hope that Washington could win. I knew they had to play perfect. But you know, howie Roseman, we've talked about it many times on the episode. But, you know, howie Roseman, we've talked about it many times on the episode Best GM in the sport, in the NFL. Nobody can argue that. Okay, and we saw it yesterday, we witnessed it. The offensive line was banged up. Everybody was, like I said, playing musical chairs you play here, you play here now, you play here now. And they just didn't let up, right. Also, almost exactly a year to the day, he was deciding whether or not to fire Sirianni and hire Belichick. Remember how they started and finished last year. Yeah.
Scott:I mean, mean that was a decision that needed to be made, right, and he decided to stick with his boy. Sirianni goes out, hires kellen moore, then goes out and hires vic fangio. Yeah, and word on the street is the saints flew to Philadelphia today to interview Kellen Moore. Yep. So I was listening and doing some research, talking about how and what Howie's done in the draft and his first draft ever in 2020,. At the 21st overall pick, he drafted Jalen Rager, who's now on the Chargers. Okay, at the 21st pick.
Graham:You know who he could have drafted.
Scott:You know who went one pick later? Yeah, Tell them folks.
Graham:Justin Jefferson.
Scott:Could you imagine that dude on that team? Yep. So after that draft and after that bust, I guess there was this conference between him and the player personnel department and they all agreed from now on we're drafting best player available from big name programs only.
Scott:Right, okay 2021 draft Devonta Smith from Bama, second round. Landon Dickerson, florida State and Bama offensive lineman, 2022,. Jordan Davis from Georgia you know that massive human being Second round. Cam Juergens from Nebraska 2023,. Oh, maybe the best defensive lineman in the game right now. Jalen Carter, oh, that everybody freaked out about because of his issues. But then, in the first round the same year, Nolan Smith, both in the first round, yep, both from Georgia 2024,. Best cornerback in the game, even though a smaller school, toledo Mitchell. And then takes Cooper to Jean from Iowa and everybody's joking on them because they're taking a white cornerback. Both of them instant starters, instant. The team is so deep, dude, dude at every position, yeah, every position. And then, oh, yeah, hey, giants, thanks for being douchebags and not extending Saquon. How's that working out?
Graham:I'll say this I'm a firm believer. Right now. I know that they say the NFL awards are only for the regular season, the opinions shouldn't go into the playoffs. But I'm going to make the case. The MVP of the league is Saquon Barkley.
Scott:It's funny you say that it's not even close. After the first play on offense for the eagles, when he took it to the house and when I say he took it to the house, he was coming right at us because we were sitting in the end zone as soon as the ball was snapped and he made that first cut I look at maddie and I go, oh my god, look, how big that hole is he. He scores. And I turn to my right to homeboy that's the Eagle fan I was talking to you about earlier and I go how is he not the MVP of the league? And he says because he ain't a quarterback. I get it Facts. And that's bullshit, that's bullshit, that's bullshit, but I will. I can say this If you take Josh Allen off the bills, or the bills, competitive? No. If you take Lamar off the Ravens, are they competitive? No. If you take Saquon off the Eagles, are they competitive? Yes. Are they where they are right now?
Graham:No, hard to say, but there is no chance that they are where they are Absolutely not, and you look at everybody banging on Saquon Dude.
Scott:Their offensive line in New York was terrible. Their quarterback was terrible. He had no chance at all. Look what he's doing with it. Their offensive line in New York was terrible. Their quarterback was terrible. He had no chance at all. Look what he's doing with the offensive line.
Graham:Look what he's doing with the quarterback Dude if the Eagles win the Super Bowl, he's a Hall of Famer, it's too early to say that. He's been in the league five years. He only has two more left. It's still early to say that he's been in the league five years. He only has two more left.
Scott:It's still early to say that.
Graham:Just saying the numbers that he puts up.
Scott:Oh, I agree. It seems like every week he's breaking out a 60-yard to the house, tutty.
Graham:Bro, he's 30 yards away from breaking the all-time rushing record for regular and postseason 30 yards at 2,474-something.
Scott:Well, it's safe to say that's getting broken.
Graham:Yeah, you know who held it.
Scott:All-purpose or just rushing Rushing. I'm just going to throw one out there. First name that came to my mind was Dickerson. Nope, who was it?
Graham:It was within the last 30 years. Who your boy? Lt, no TD. Yeah, it's TD. You'd have to go to the Super Bowl. Yeah, dude, almost 2,500 yards in 19 games. It's crazy.
Scott:And don't forget, he didn't play the last week.
Graham:Exactly, he could have crushed that yeah.
Scott:But hey, dude Eagles are in their third Super Bowl, dude, since 2017. Yeah, and second in the last three years.
Graham:Yep and they're a bad holding call from being champs three years ago.
Scott:Dude, I was talking about that last night with this guy at the bar.
Scott:Oh we're not even getting into that. He was more bitter because he preseason bet the Eagles to play the Bills in the Super Bowl and a $100 bet would have won him three grand. So he was more bitter about that. But yeah, you're right, we talked about it on the episode that year. You can't end a Super Bowl like that. But you know we're just talking. Washington's magic ran out, right. I mean turnovers killed them. At one point, dude. You know Washington had like a 37-play drive and their first possession of the game went for fourth down. You know 34 times Got three points. And you know we're like, all right, got three. And then you know, first play from scrimmage Saquon yeah, he gone. Washington gets the ball back and they turn it over and Eagles score again. I'm like, oh shit, this is about to get ugly early. And, dude, I couldn't believe at one point Washington was only down two, right? I?
Graham:mean it almost had a feeling kind of like the previous week where you said Washington was only down two Right. It almost had a feeling kind of like the previous week where you said when they played Detroit and they kept going for it on fourth down, it's like dude, if you can't stop them, you have to score. Now this week or this past week it's like field goals ain't doing it. But I agree, you have to get touchdowns.
Scott:It was fourth and five when they decided to kick the field goal and I agreed they had no that one.
Graham:the first, I agree with yeah.
Scott:And then they're down 14 to three and they're getting ready to literally go three and out and the fake punt happens. And I'm like, yeah, oh, my God, Did that really just happen? And dude, all the Eagles fans around us, the people I was just talking about, they're all looking at each other going what the blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, losing their shit. And that's when Washington scores on the Scary Terry Tutty. And then I'm sitting there talking to Matty. I'm like, don't go for two, don't go for two, Don't go for two. What do they do? Go for two, Don't get it. And you know Washington was hanging in there. Hold them to a field goal right before halftime. They kick the ball off. Washington gets the ball or supposed to get the ball with a minute 43 timeouts left, homeboy fumbles it. Yeah, a minute 40, three timeouts left, Homeboy fumbles it. Then the stupid personal foul penalty when Saquon's got 87 feet out of bounds and dumbass hits him an extra 15. On third down, they get a tutty. Then Lattimore and AJ Brown get into it. This is the dumbest penalty ever, because AJ Brown ripped Lattimore and AJ Brown get into it. This is the dumbest penalty ever because I mean, AJ Brown ripped Lattimore's helmet off. Penalty goes against Washington. Now they go for two. It's done right, but second half kicks off.
Scott:Yeah, they're getting beat up and Washington holds them three and out, and then Washington gets the ball. They're three and out, and then Washington gets the ball. They're three and out. And it was just. It was bad, dude, you turn it over. What did they turn it over Three or four times? I mean, yeah, you know Jaden Daniels played his dick off His team. Let him down. You know the fumbles Eckler fumbling. You know the kickoff return fumble. Who else fumbled? Was Gary Terry? One of the fumbles?
Graham:Yeah, the Eckler one hurt just the momentum that they had on that draft.
Scott:I mean, the Eagles had seven rushing touchdowns, hertz had three, barkley had three.
Graham:That's insane. Yeah Wild, I think, they said. And then Barkley's backup took it 60 yards and then they finally got him into the end zone at the end of the game.
Scott:Yeah, I think they said no, it wasn't his backup because didn't Gainwell leave the game with a concussion.
Graham:Oh sorry.
Scott:Second, so the third stringer yeah.
Graham:It was his first touchdown of the season, I don't know if it's career, or at least on the season.
Scott:I think I was listening today and don't quote me on this I think seven Eagles rushed the ball. That's crazy, including Dallas. Goddard got a handoff. He had a couple handoffs Right. I was like I'm sorry who?
Graham:did they?
Scott:just hand that off to.
Graham:In the red zone too, right, insane, I'm like Pretty wild the way they played and everyone's like oh, jalen Hurts, has he injured the knee? Blah, blah, blah.
Scott:Look, obviously the two best teams are left right well, you're talking about a team in the Eagles that won 15 I think of their last 16 and then you're talking about a team the Chiefs that lost one game this year with their starters in. Yeah, yeah, the best two teams won.
Graham:I. I mean I think there's still, there's still going to be some bitterness from you know the rematch, obviously, from a few years ago. I just look, it's still early. We'll talk about our picks, you know the following week, but I don't know man, I just with Philly's D for them only having to rush four so they can keep their linebackers back, and the corners and safeties. I mean I'm not saying they're blowing them out, but I really like their chances. I mean I think it would still be a one-score game, but I mean.
Scott:I don't know, like, as the Bills and chiefs are wrapping up, last night I'm like talking to Maddie. I'm like all right, bills or chiefs, eagle Superbowl. I'm like what do you think the line opens up at? I'm like I'm going to go out there and say Eagles land a point and a half, and Maddie's like I agree with that, maybe two game ends. I get on draft Kings. The exact opposite.
Graham:Yeah, I was shocked but yeah, it's scripted, of course. Here we go.
Scott:I mean, you got the, the best roster on paper playing against the best head coach, quarterback defensive coordinator combo maybe of all times.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:Okay, and as I say that, let's just jump right into it. And, folks, it's been a long time since your boys had a kick rock moment and we're about to get it started, so let's get it started. Yeah, let's get it started, okay. Everybody that listens to us knows I'm a charter fan and knows that I hate the chiefs more than anything Okay, and knows that I hate the Chiefs more than anything okay. But let's just go out and say all you people out there blaming the refs for the Chiefs beating the Bills last night understand a couple things. The Bills were awful last night. And let's just start from their first possession, the first possession of the game. The Bills get the ball. Awful possession. They looked like they had no effing clue what was going on. Okay, and what happens? Three and out ball goes to the Chiefs. What do the Chiefs do? 90-yard drive, never faced a third down? You're not.
Scott:It looked like andy reed had a month to prepare for that game because they picked the bills defense apart. They knew where the weaknesses were and boom, boom, boom, boom. Let's go back to my room so we can do it all night and we can make you feel right. Andy Reed said Sean McDermott, hold my beer. Okay, you're like a man with no arms, you can't hang. And the entire game was the same goddamn way. Okay, oh, for two.
Scott:On two point conversions chasing points what do we always talk about? Don't chase points. One for five on the tush push jim nance is talking about. Every time the bills do the tush push. Which way does josh allen go, graham, to the left or to the right, the left, if jim nance hello friends, knows that you don't think steve spagnolio or whatever, however the fuck you pronounce his name doesn't know that? Hey, you got a six foot five, massive quarterback. Hey, let's maybe run him outside of a tackle. You know why the tush push works so goddamn well for Jalen Hurts? Because he's five foot eleven and he gets under the line. You can't even see him. So let's put a massive human being and let's try to do the Drew Brees and jump over the line. Yeah, no, it don't work, josh, okay.
Scott:And yeah, the Bills fumbled the ball four times. They had a little black magic going. They recovered all four. Okay, could you imagine that, dude? Don't talk to me about this, don't talk to me about that. Take away those two two-point conversion failures. Take extra point what happens at the end, exactly, and let's just give credit where credit is due, and I hate it because it's the goddamn chiefs. But the defensive coordinator, genius spags, does my guy dial up the most amazing blitzes of all times and the most crucial moments of every effing big game and big moment of every game. And we're not talking about alignment or a running back whiff on a blitz. We're talking about dudes that have a free lane. Okay, wide ass open. They're not even touched. Okay, hey, bills, you do any film review this week preparing for that defense? No, you were probably jumping through goddamn chairs with your fans.
Scott:Oh, shut the bleep up, I mean.
Graham:You know what no.
Scott:I want the Bills.
Graham:You threw an exotic blitz my guy calls exotic blitzes for the last seven fucking years, graham I'm aware of that, but I'm just saying they didn't call that blitz all game and they did a corner blitz, the last play of the game. You know why? I'm just saying it was saving it for that moment.
Scott:I'm not I. I I agree with you, but I'm just saying it was even it for that moment.
Graham:I'm not I. I I agree with you, but I'm just going to say this you had your kick.
Scott:Look at the box score. How even were all the stats? They were right there. He was out coached. He was the chiefs. I hate it. I hate to say it. They make plays when plays are supposed to happen. The bills I'll agree with that Again had the lead in the fourth quarter. Granted, it was only one, but the Bills' offense in the second half was vanilla. They were playing scared. Josh Allen looked scared in his first drive. What are you?
Scott:talking about, Dude. There's two minutes left in the game, You're down by three and you're fucking running the ball. You got no timeouts. They only needed a field goal to tie. Yeah, and that's the mentality. That's the mentality, because you're trying to fucking tie and not trying to fucking win.
Graham:I promise you they were trying to win.
Scott:Yeah, win these nuts at Niagara Falls. Okay, all right. I mean I'm sorry for all the F-bombs everybody, but I'm sorry McDermott, you're awful. Josh Allen, you're still the greatest tight end playing quarterback in the league. Your defense is garbage. You know the Ravens would have beaten the Chiefs.
Graham:Not the way they played against the Bills. I don't know, dude. So everything that you just said, I'm going to throw the. What you always like to say is well, if my aunt had balls?
Scott:No, is really what I'm going to say Right, you can say that, no, just let me finish. You had your time, hold on. You're allowed to say that, but there's no. What if my aunt had my balls? Spagnuolo, andy Reid, think about this.
Graham:A hundred percent.
Scott:The Chiefs are about to do what no team has ever done in the NFL, and that's win three Super Bowls in a row. Pat Mahomes is about to be the first player in NFL history under the age of 30 to have two MVPs in how many rings Would be four MVPs and how many rings would be four? And that is, they beat the bills, without Travis Kelsey even being a factor in the game.
Graham:You don't think the defense has something to do with that?
Scott:The bills give up the most yards to tight ends in the league in the AFC.
Graham:Yeah, but when they played them during the regular seasons in Buffalo, what was Kelsey's yards?
Scott:Not a lot, but Noah Gray, how many touchdowns did he have?
Graham:Okay, well, pick your poison. When you're getting down to these quality caliber of teams, you're obviously going to have studs all over the place. Graham, I'm not disagreeing with you, and we're also talking about a first ballot hall of famer I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying right, I'm just saying coaching decisions.
Scott:I thought this was going to be the year the bills do it a hundred percent.
Graham:And let me tell you something the 30-yard bomb not only should that, the fact that they don't call that an interception number one, but two, the fact that they gave him the catch when the ball hit the fucking ground should have not even been a catch. I don't, that's number one, I don't disagree. I don't, that's number one, I don't disagree. Shouldn't even have been a catch. But if you're going to call it a catch, the Buffalo guy had it and then the ball hit the ground, but then somehow the receiver for Kansas City still had more of his hand on the ball after they were already on the ground. So they give it to Kansas City. That's two things right there. Number two the fourth down. Call the announcers. But should I say, or the is it Gene Steratore that's on CBS? The former head official said hands down, that should have been a first down. Not to mention if you looked at the play, the line judge that was coming from the top, coming down, had the ball and said it was a first down. But then the other line judge comes in. So that was when they were up two points and they were driving in the fourth quarter. If they get that and then take the ball down the field, they're up nine points. That's a huge swing in the game. Huge swing in the game. Huge swing in the game. I'm not saying I disagree. So that call literally changed the outcome of the game. There was six minutes left when that happened Huge. So if you take another minute and a half off the clock and they score a touchdown, you're up nine points with four minutes left.
Graham:Then, when Buffalo got the ball back and they scored and Kansas City had to go down the field, I saw on another just on YouTube, the same situation where something funny happened again, where I don't know if it was CBS or what the deal was, but it was a first down. Kansas city has the ball, kermit almost gets sacked, but then he runs for three yards the next drive. So you would think, if he got three yards, what would it be? Second and seven, the clock or not? Should I say the clock?
Graham:But cbs on the thing said first and ten, and then they run the ball. But that play was the first down. So I mean like I'm not saying that play itself meant anything, but I'm just saying crazy shit happens. But to everything you just said look, did Kansas City play better. Yes, were the Bills on their shit in the beginning. No, kansas City is that team. I get that. But I'm just saying you can't have plays with six minutes left in the game where you make a bad call and it affects it to the point where the game can go either way well, how about the super bowl we were just talking about, when the eagles played?
Graham:the chiefs that call determined the outcome of the game I don't disagree with you, but the difference between that call and what happened against the Bills is this Technically, by the rule, even though it was the lightest grab of all time, he technically did grab him.
Scott:I'm just going to say this.
Graham:Would they have called that during the regular season? Absolutely not.
Scott:I'm just going to say this. And they had different colored gloves on, so they could see it Watching the Eagles yesterday going into the game, the Bills-Chiefs game. All I can think is, yes, I want the Bills to win against the Chiefs, but, my God, are the Eagles going to lay the wood to the Bills if this happens? And that's, the Bills' offensive firepower can't even match up.
Graham:Yeah, but you say that, and it was a three-point game.
Scott:The Bills' defense couldn't hang with the Eagles.
Graham:I get what you're saying, but you make it sound like the game was so lopsided.
Scott:It was three points. I know that. What games have the Chiefs blown people out in this year? They only beat the goddang Panthers by three.
Graham:Yeah, you ain't wrong.
Scott:I'm just saying. A lot of casual fans out there are bitter about the matchup in the Super Bowl. Oh, we got to see the Chiefs again, and me as a Chargers fan as much as I hate the Chiefs, people out there need to understand. We're seeing some wild crazy history shit going on right now.
Graham:Oh I.
Scott:Yeah, and I hate it, but.
Graham:Dude. Nate Burleson said the same thing in the postgame the greatest you know on CBS, the greatest thing.
Scott:He said the same thing, the greatest thing the Chiefs have done in the last you know. Just go back a couple years, remember when Mahomes was throwing for 35-plus tutties a year, and now they're a defensive team. The greatest thing the Chiefs have done in my mind was let Tyreek Hill go so they could re-sign Jones. Yeah. I mean.
Graham:Hey, offense wins, but you can't win with defense. You have to have defense, you have to have defense.
Scott:And hey, bills, how'd that work out, trading with the Chiefs so they could get worthy?
Graham:They liked Coleman better than worthy.
Scott:How'd that work out? Coleman had one grab for whatever yesterday Tomato, tomato, I know, I know, I know, I know.
Graham:Worthy as a gadget player.
Scott:For now. He started out the year as a gadget player taking these reverses and stuff, but he actually turned into a player that makes plays.
Graham:I won't disagree with you, but he actually turned into a player that makes plays. I won't disagree with you. I mean, look, they're a solid, all-around team. I mean that's why they're the best team in the league.
Scott:Something I heard today and I wanted to ask you this Belichick has what? Six rings? Yeah, andy Reid has what? Three. Yeah, what three. Yeah, three going first. Fourth if you, if the way football and the rules are right now okay, we're the way, we're that way back in Belichick 6, belichick has four rings, andy Reid has an extra couple Because the rules obviously now favor what the offense? Right, yeah, it's a crazy one, right, it's crazy.
Graham:Yeah, but still not that there's an asterisk that needs to be made. No, I'm just saying when you got tom brady, it's like you know, when you have two.
Scott:I mean we're talking about quarter coaches that have the two greatest quarterbacks of all time well, let's, let's, don't forget montana um, I think montana would say if I, I don't disagree I mean mahomes is about to have four rings under the age of 30. Brady had seven and played until he was what? How old 42-ish?
Graham:I don't know. Yeah, and Mahomes hasn't lost in the Super Bowl, right, they've won all of them.
Scott:No, they lost two Brady. Oh yeah, that's right. That's right.
Graham:Yeah, yeah, yeah, his first one, their first Super.
Scott:Bowl, Because that was the one when they played Tampa. No, they won the first one, they beat the Niners and then they lost to Tampa.
Graham:Okay yeah, you're right, you're right.
Scott:But he could have four dude before he was 30 years old. Yeah, and you know, on Vissen, today, after Kermit won his first, okay, Circa Sportsbook had set the number up over one and a half for Kermit at plus 350. For his career.
Graham:That's a bet I wish I knew about.
Scott:I mean, you're talking about a dude, that's I think that lasted. What a year I mean yeah, you're talking about a dude that's never not gone to the AFC Championship game In his career.
Graham:That's insane.
Scott:He lost a.
Graham:Well, when you're always the number one seed no, not last year.
Scott:You only need to win one game, not last year they had to go on the road Buffalo and Baltimore. Yeah, I mean, it's wild. And don't forget, they got homeboy Rice coming back next year.
Graham:It's wild. They still got Hollywood Brown. Why would you need Rice with the way Worthy is playing? And then Because they're still on All that drama. They're still rookie contracts. No, I mean. I get all that. I'm just saying yeah, but they also pushed his court date back with everything. I don't even know how he hasn't even been suspended, yet so. I'm not even projecting him even to be on the team.
Scott:So the matchup literally has been set for less than 24 hours. We already heard you think the Eagles cover minus one and a half. You told me you're taking them. You know money line what was money line Plus 120?
Graham:Something like that. Right, yeah, plus 120. Is plus 115 or plus 120? Yeah, I think it's plus 115. Okay, I don't know, I think it's plus 115. Okay, I don't know, I'm kind of liking the over too. What is that? Do you know? 48 and a half.
Scott:Both teams' defenses are solid. I hope it goes over so we don't have a 19-16 game or something like that 19-16 game or something like that With Saquon.
Graham:I just With who I think the MVP should be. He just brings such a dynamic to them, even like he didn't even really catch the ball yesterday.
Scott:Yeah, he's not going to be able to run. I mean I'm not saying he's not going to be able to run the ball.
Graham:He's not going to be able to gash teams like he has against the Chiefs All right, so okay, then let me ask you this question, Obviously because of the poorest defensive line that the Commanders have, the prop for his rushing was one, hey Payne, best defensive lineman on the Commanders.
Scott:I'm sorry. Why did you miss the game yesterday? Your finger injury? Oh, I'm sorry, thumb, what You're a defensive lineman Aren't you supposed to be? Do you know how?
Graham:important your thumb is.
Scott:Aren't you supposed to be a big badass? Tape it up, cast it up. Let's go Fuck your thumb. I remember Marcus McNeil, rookie left tackle for the Chargers, had two broken forearms, and is out there playing with two casts. Okay, screw your thumb. Stick it up your ass. Okay, it's the biggest game of your life. It's the NFC Championship game. Remember when the Packers played the Bears in the NFC Championship game? Remember when the Packers played the Bears in the NFC Championship game and Jay Cutler had a little finger issue? Oh, you're quarterback. Oh, I'm going to go sit on the sideline. My non-throwing hand yeah, you and Jay Cutler just got mentioned in the same sentence. Okay, hockey dudes, take a skate to the face and get 40 stitches and come out in the next period. And you're worried about your little piddly thumb? Oh, what do you want to know? You want to know a little sugar titty. I mean, get out of here, bro. I mean, come on. If I'm a commander fan and I have your Jersey, you're dead to me.
Graham:Put your sugar titties away. All right, biggest game of.
Scott:I have your jersey. You're dead to me. Put your sugar titties away, all right, biggest game of your career and your thumb hurts. So you're going to go cry to the doctor. Kick rocks, get the F out of here. I would give my left nut Graham would give his left nut to be out on the field getting paid what you get paid to be playing in a game like this and you're worried about a fucking thumb injury. And, by the way, this definitely leads the over under on f bombs by your boy tonight I'm just.
Graham:Well, you definitely have the better chance of playing d tackle than I do, so I'm just saying dude, like seriously I feel you. Anyway, to my point, the over-under was like 135.5 rushing yards for Saquon because of that D-line. What do you think his over-under for yardage now against the KC D-line?
Scott:Is it already out there? Do you know the answer?
Graham:I have no idea.
Scott:Oh, I thought you.
Graham:I mean, I just thought of this on the spot.
Scott:I will tell you this Anybody that's betting whatever Pacheco's yardage is in the Super Bowl, bet the under.
Graham:Dude, I'm so happy I did. I wish I would have done it first TD, but I did Kareem Hunt anytime touchdown. He got that first one. I was like let's go.
Scott:I also say whatever Kareem Hunt rushing attempts is, bet the over. I know right, let's see Rushing. I'm looking at it right now, rushing props, because I'm looking too. 120 plus is plus 100.
Graham:No, but what's his specifically? Let's see.
Scott:Over 116.5.
Graham:Wow, I got it for 123.5. And by smack myself I got it at 113.5. Sorry.
Scott:Pacheco is 22.5. Betacheco Pacheco is 22 and a half. Bet that under Dude.
Graham:What Kareem Hunt's rushing attempts is 11 and a half. Take it At plus 100. Take it, hmm. Well, we can talk more about that, but we'll just save that for next week's episode, because it's pretty much going to be all about bets.
Scott:But before we even go just got to throw this out there. Anybody notice at what time the Cowboys head coach was announced on Friday, 1030 Eastern.
Graham:Who Michael Irvin is heated.30 Eastern who Michael Irvin is heated he is. I will say this as someone that has distaste for the Cowboys. I'm just laughing. This just makes me so happy.
Scott:I mean, if it wasn't for the Giants and their bullshit going on over there in their franchise, how do you think the Cowboys feel right now? Everybody called the NFC East the NFC least and they had two teams in the NFC Championship game and we all know the Eagles are awesome, obviously, playing in the Super Bowl and the Commanders advanced to the NFC Championship game and they've had the third most cap space amazing quarterback Cowboys, wow.
Graham:Well, it's what happens when you have a GM that knows what the hell he's doing.
Scott:You mean not an 80-year-old ownererry jones that is literally doing the exact same thing as al davis at the end of his life for the raiders, yeah, but at least jerry jones didn't pick people just because they were the fastest person at the combine.
Graham:I mean just saying speaking of the raiders, pete carroll I liked in his PES conference where he basically says you know we need to bring back. He's like we need to fill these stadiums with our fans and I'm like good luck with that.
Scott:Good luck in Vegas, bro. I thought something you would like is the rumor of Russell Wilson going to the Raiders.
Graham:Bro, there's so many things that need to happen with Pittsburgh right now. That's a whole other topic of conversation we can get into next week. Yeah, it is so. That being said, scott, it's been a pleasure doing the podcast with you. Love you to death. I'm glad you had a great time. I hate the fact that you said you're going to be a pseudo-Eagles fan. Now Eat a dick. Wait a minute.
Scott:I didn't say I was going to. I said I would pull for them.
Graham:I know I'm just messing with you. Anyway, as the best friend always says, boo-bye.
Scott:Good night friends. Good night Buffalo. Enjoy your window being closing. Hope you have bruises on your ass for jumping through those tables.
Graham:Booba.
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