Bald Guys On The Bench
Bald Guys On The Bench
No Football, More Beer, More Friends!
Recorded February 23th, 2025
What do you get when two bald guys share a beer and reflect on the weekend? Laughter, heartfelt tributes, and a lively discussion about the latest happenings in sports! Join Graham and Scott as they recount their memorable weekends, featuring a touching nod to local heroes and the exhilarating play of the Four Nations Championship.
In this episode, we start with the guys catching up on life and friendships formed through sports. We dive deep into the heart-wrenching news of the Virginia Beach officers who lost their lives on routine duty, reminding us of the importance of community and those who protect it. Following that, they discuss the recent Four Nations Championship, spotlighting moments of intensity and growing interest in hockey, drawing in viewers from all walks of life.
The conversation shifts as they speculate on the recent salary cap changes in the NFL, focusing on the implications for team dynamics and strategies, particularly around the future of quarterback Matt Stafford.
This episode is rich with insights, laughter, and a sense of community, making it a must-listen for sports enthusiasts and casual fans alike. If you enjoyed the camaraderie and discussions, we invite you to engage with us: subscribe, share your thoughts, and let us know your favorite moments from the episode!
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Welcome to another episode of the Bald Guys on the Bench podcast, with your hosts Graham Cohen and Scott Wasco.
Graham:What's up everyone. Welcome back to another episode of the Bald Guys on the Bench. I'm Graham. I'm here with my boy, scott. What's up everyone? Welcome back to another episode of the Bald Guys on the Bench. I'm Graham. I'm here with my boy Scott. What's up?
Scott:brother. Well, graham, like we always do, let's grab one and crack one. But it only took three tries to get that opening statement down from Graham and folks. I wish you could have seen it. We had a before we even start the episode slap yourself moment. So let's grab it, let's crack it, let's get it going. I guess the fact that we don't have any football games on Sunday is really making Graham a little cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. So here we go, let's go. What?
Graham:Wow, I don't know what you're talking about. I do, I just witnessed it.
Scott:I mean't know what you're talking about, I do, I just witnessed it. I mean, oh man.
Graham:I think you're making shit up because when this comes out, there's going to be no mistakes in the beginning Hashtag you're the editor.
Scott:So, anyhow, that was pretty good. You know, before we get into your weekend, my weekend and all the shit about sports, I just got to go out there. And you know, before we get into your weekend, my weekend and all the shit about sports, I just got to go out there. And you know, throw a shout out to the city of Virginia beach and their police force. Uh, they lost two officers Friday night, gunned down on a routine traffic stop bro For expired license plates. Damn yeah, crazy for expired license plates. Damn yeah, crazy, expired license plates. Dude wouldn't get out of the car, then got out of the car, there was a little scuffle and then just shot them both and then ran and shot himself and routine 25-year-old cop, 30-year-old cop lost their lives for an expired license plate.
Announcer:Wild heart goes out to a man, but that's brutal.
Scott:What can you say?
Graham:you know, I I'm trying to like emote any type of words right now and I just I I'm like what, like what? What do you say to that? Like spire tags, like so it escalates, you shoot the cop and you don't want to go to jail the rest of your life?
Scott:I mean like okay anyway, yeah, brutal, but had had to throw that out since you know we got a lot of local people here that listen and know the news Fair enough, let's jump right in. It's Sunday night. We're kicking it off. How was your weekend? What'd you do?
Graham:Weekend was. You know it was good. You know my schedule changed at work recently, so I mean, I'd always work on the weekend anyway, but like the weekend is not like the middle part of my week, so my days off now are Wednesday, Thursday, so that makes things a little more interesting. But, that being said, I actually have two separate friends that are in town right now, one of which was a homie of mine that I caddied with back at Manhattan Woods back in the day and you know I met up with him on Friday night. We kicked it.
Graham:He stayed over at the Stratosphere, checked out that spot, just hung out and had a couple of drinks caught up. And you know it's funny, I'm hanging out with him and like we were talking and he was saying things so, like you know, when you're friends with someone, you just say things so nonchalantly. And I was like, bro, you do know that the last time I saw you was like 13 years ago, right, and he's like what? I'm like? Yeah, bro, my last summer was 2012, working there. I'm like this is 2015, 20. I'm sorry, 2025. He's like oh, he's like I guess time does fly.
Scott:And I was like, yeah, like it's been a minute, I do got to ask Is he still in that world, catty world, or is he out of that?
Graham:No, he's out of it, he is in. Where is he? He's outside of Scottsdale doing some farm work. Actually, got it? He works in the cannabis industry. Okay, so he works on a farm and does the grow work and stuff like that.
Scott:But the most important question does he have contact with your boy that caddies at Augusta? No, he does not have contact with Caddy.
Announcer:That dude is a ghost.
Graham:Yeah, so my buddy from Augusta. Just case in point, I don't think I've ever seen anyone smoke more ciggies than this guy. Bro, this dude's a two-pack-a-day guy, especially just on the golf course.
Scott:The guy you just hung out with, I mean you can't smoke.
Graham:No, no, my buddy from Augusta, I mean, obviously the caddies can't smoke while they're at the course, but it's like, dude, the house that they had, so he had a house and then he rented the other rooms out to other caddies. Bro, it's like walking into the casino in the smoking section.
Scott:And it's just like you can't live in a house that that you smoke at least the casinos.
Graham:It's just like air filter thingamabobbers yeah, dude, you can't like, it's just brutal. But so I saw the homie, it was really good seeing him. You know, took whole pics together, pictures together, send it back to the other hom homies and it's just reminiscent type stuff. So that was really cool. And then also somewhat, I wouldn't say, friend of the program, but he is mentioned every now and then my boy, ted aka. Was that a raccoon? You ate, aka? Wow.
Graham:I was wondering if you were gonna go there. Um, he don't listen to podcasts, so I don't feel bad at all does he have?
Scott:does he even have the internet?
Graham:yes, he has the internet okay, good friends with our with our boy grammar police? No, it's, he has high speed. He has high speed, but uh yeah ran into him last night, um, after I got to work, caught up with him. We played uh poker for a couple of hours and chatted and caught up. So you know it was nice. I haven't seen him in about four years so, um, it was nice seeing some old friends uh work, just pretty simple things.
Scott:Where was Ted?
Graham:staying. They were staying at Excalibur.
Scott:Is that where you played poker?
Graham:obviously no. There's only a handful of casinos that actually you can play actual poker at. You can only really play at MGM Harris, we played at Mandalay Bay, but there's a bunch of them that you can't. It's just like see, I know, caesars, you can, but um, it's just it's why is that?
Scott:why did they get rid of their poker rooms, any idea? I mean, I know they don't make a lot of money off of poker it's.
Graham:I think it's just it's money and staffing. To be perfectly honest, yeah, it's just. Why keep something staffed, why keep something open when they're not getting a lot of business, like the area that they have in mandalay bay? They moved it off to the corner and it's not even 24 hours, like they stop at 3 am every day and then open back up at like seven. Wow, and it's just like I mean, hey, something's better than nothing.
Graham:But it's just like what, if? If you're not getting enough business for extended period of time, like why be open, you know, if that's not something that's drawing people to you? I mean, if it was harris, if it was, you know, bellagio, aria, something like that, that's where most most serious players are going to play at. So you know they go to their regular spots, but, yeah, a lot of places don't have it anymore. I mean, heck, a lot of the casinos now they have less table games. Um, they they're more like video versions, like how, like craps and roulette, like you can play like automated versions of these games instead of like having the table it's funny.
Scott:You say that because the casino that just opened up here I told you I went a couple of weeks ago played craps. They actually have the video boards where you sit down and place your wagers, but then they actually have the table where a person that's playing on will go up and throw the dice, which is weird. It's cool. A person that's playing on will go up and throw the dice, which I which is weird, it's cool. At least you're getting real dice and you don't have a computer bending you over. So you've got a real person throwing the dice, you know.
Announcer:But yeah.
Scott:I mean it makes sense. I mean poker. When you're playing poker in a casino and sorry for being ignorant, I don't play poker in a casino because I don't play poker, I do with my boys but when you're playing, don't you have to like every hand, you have to throw an ante that the house gets, or something like that. That's where they get their money right.
Graham:Well, it's not specifically called an ante, but basically, once all the blinds are collected from the players that are in the pot, the house just takes a portion of that. Got it? So, based on how many people is how many people's in the in the? Pot that's how much they take out.
Scott:So once again they're making shit versus, versus a blackjack table where they're making all of it.
Graham:Yeah, I mean one poker table is making maybe like $80 an hour no.
Announcer:Yeah.
Graham:Which, I mean, is peanuts.
Scott:Nothing compared to that slot machine. Thanks for playing.
Graham:And you don't have to staff anybody.
Scott:Yeah, exactly, yeah, anyhow, my weekend dude. Well, we did our episode last Sunday night. Uh, went to work on Tuesday and went to work a little bit on Wednesday and then we got 13 inches of snow, starting about Wednesday at 11 AM and it stopped about 2 AM Wednesday or Thursday morning. So you know where I will live the world shuts down for about four inches of snow. So you can imagine what 13 inches of snow did. So didn't work on Thursday or Wednesday, wednesday a little bit Didn't work on Thursday.
Scott:I went to work on Friday. Why, I have no idea, but uh, just to get out of the house. But you know, my kids haven't been. My kids only went to school one day last week. Monday was President's Day, it was a holiday. They went to school Tuesday. They were out Wednesday, thursday, friday, same with Kristen, but you know, because of the snow, that was the weekend. Watch some sports and let's just jump right in dude, the Four Nations Championship game USA versus Canada. All I can say is wow, and it lived up to the hype. Dude, why are you smiling over there? What are you going to say?
Graham:I mean.
Scott:Sorry, shit, shit there I mean. All I gotta say it was epic. You could not have asked for anything better out of a hockey game that had been hyped like that. You know, the first matchup last Saturday started off with three fights right In the first 10 seconds. This did not have that because it was the championship game. Nobody wanted to go to the penalty box but dude, it was epic man. 10.4 million viewers most viewed non NFL or college football event ever on ESPN Is that any good?
Graham:I mean, that's pretty deece Dude.
Scott:JJ Watt hit the nail on the head with his tweet after the first period. I don't know if you saw it. Yeah, he tweets it's incredible how much of a home run the Four Nations has been for the NHL and hockey in general. Friends who never watched a hockey game in their lives reaching out, asking what the plan is for tonight's game, what food we're ordering, etc. Definition of growing the game.
Graham:Bro, it was a mini Winter Olympics Dude. I mean that's when a lot of the camaraderie of national sport comes into play and that's when we really pay attention and watch it. You know what I mean. Outside of, I mean, unless you're a legitimate hockey fan, I mean most of the time during the Olympics you watch sports that you normally don't watch. You know what I mean. So it's just like I get it from that aspect and look, I'm going to sound naive as hell because, to be honest, I. And look, I'm going to sound naive as hell because, to be honest, I didn't even realize that the four nations replaced the all-star game For them. Like I had no idea, like I found that out the other day and I was like wait, what?
Scott:Oh? That's what was so amazing about it. When you just talk about the NFL, the Pro Bowl, back in the day it used to be legit and everybody would play. Then they took away pads, made it a flag football game, Because football, let's face it, they weren't going 100%. But even when they had pads on, football is a sport. You have to go 100% or don't go at all. You can't half-ass it, Right? No?
Graham:you're right.
Scott:Major League Baseball the All-Star game meh. And we're not even going to get into the NBA All-Star festivities, like they don't want to be there. Hockey you know these dudes, they wanted to be there. They show up every night and I don't know if you've watched the Instagram thing I sent you the other night with PK Subban talking about the NBA and hockey. He's talking about guys on the NBA that can't play on back-to-back nights because their knees hurt. And you take a family of four, you're going to see LeBron play. Oh, sorry, bad luck. You just spent X amount of dollars. Lebron's not playing now, and then you know what you're getting when you go to a hockey game.
Scott:If the NHL team is coming off a back-to-back, the only thing you can expect is that goalie that played last night probably isn't playing tonight. Other than that, the stars are playing. And our boy, bt, hit the nail on the head after the game and he said yeah, the United States lost, canada won, he goes, but in the long run, hockey won yeah, I agree, and he ain hockey one yeah, I agree.
Scott:And he ain't wrong At all. I agree, it was epic, it was fun and, dude, it was intense as shit. It was so intense. I said it last week on the episode. As a new hockey fan and by new I'm going back to the start of Vegas nights Last Saturday was probably one of the most intense games I've ever watched. Well, thursday night was that too.
Scott:I mean, I went back the other night on the snow day just because I was bored, nothing going on, and I listened, re-listened to the episode you and I did the night that the Knights won the Stanley Cup and I was listening to the beginning of it and I felt the same way as I did Thursday night. Did Thursday night and, just to rephrase it, before the game that the Knights won game five against the Panthers, I'm sitting there pacing around the house like, well, this is, hurry up and start. Buckeye texts me at noon on Thursday. Dude, I just left work and I got eight hours till the game. Son of a bitch. It was kind of the same thing, I mean, granted, I didn't. You know what I'm saying. The Knights won the Stanley Cup. I wanted USA to win because I'm an.
Scott:American, but it was insane, dude. It was intense and then it wasn't when the best player on the planet scored the game one and go in overtime, but it was awesome, right place right time. It was awesome. But just before we switch sports, I have to throw this out there. Alex Ovechkin okay, he's 13 goals away from breaking the all-time goal record Scored two today. 13 away from breaking the all-time goal record Scored two today. 13 away from the great one Pretty wild.
Graham:I don't want to step on anyone's toes here, but like is this like a situation? It's like a you know, a jordan lebron type of thing where it's just like everyone is just like gretzky's the man, like it's no denying it, type of thing. But then, like, if ovechkin beats him in goals, like is that I mean? But also I mean ovechkin's been playing for I, he played longer than Gretzky?
Scott:I don't know. I'm about to look it up. That's a great question. Ovechkin played for a couple different teams.
Graham:Yeah, ovechkin's only for one right, only with the Cavs, only with the.
Scott:Cavs, and something about Gretzky. God, I'm so pissed I can't think of this dude's name Everywhere. Gretzky, god, I'm so pissed I can't think of this dude's name. Everywhere Gretzky went, his protector went with him, did you?
Graham:know, that. You've mentioned it before.
Scott:If you mess, with Gretzky, you're getting, yeah, the SmackDown.
Graham:I mean, I guess I'm just bringing it up because like look, obviously Ovechkin gets his flowers.
Graham:I'm not saying he doesn't but it's just like, I don't know, there's just some part of me that is just like, because Gretzky's just been so established for so long granted, obviously, because he's been retired for X amount of years now it's just, I mean, I think it's kind of like a recency bias type of thing, like you don't think of Ovechkin that way, but you know, 20 years from now, who knows? I mean, obviously he's going to be a great of a great, you know. I mean it's just, it's an interesting situation to feel that it's just like yeah, man, I mean, look, gretzky's goals was one of those things you're like is that a record that's ever going to get touched? Yeah, I mean, nowadays it would. Ovechkin's record, I mean, is that going to get touched? I mean you have to play. I mean he's 40-what and he scored how many goals this year already.
Scott:That's insane. Ovechkin's 39.
Graham:Yeah, okay, Still yeah.
Scott:I know, yeah, 39.
Graham:I mean that's insane. I mean that's insane. I mean, look, you could still play. I mean, with hockey, you could be an old fart out there and still pedal it around. I mean, look, jarmer Jager. I mean, granted, he's playing overseas, but I mean he played in the NHL until what? 45, 44?.
Scott:Yep Ovechkin's first season was 05, 06. Yeah that's right around Crosby.
Graham:Because he's like 06-07, something like that.
Scott:Ovechkin had 52 goals to lead all rookies in points. Wow and his rookie season.
Graham:Yeah, I mean yeah, that's not bad.
Scott:Let's see, while we're talking about it, I'm going to quickly look up how long Gretzky. I couldn't even tell you yeah, I don't so maybe like 20 seasons, so they're pretty much neck and neck.
Graham:He did.
Scott:Yep, wow, yep, yeah, 79 to 99. That's crazy, wow, yep, crazy, huh, yep. Oilers, kings, blues, rangers.
Graham:Yeah, who would have caught me on the Blues?
Scott:Yeah, I knew the other ones too. Wow, yep.
Graham:That's interesting.
Scott:Hmm.
Graham:Hey, I mean, look big ups to the NHL and hockey. I mean they did what they needed to do. I mean, with PK Subban, you know throwing the shots at the NBA, I get it. It's just the thing that sucks is the players have all the power. There's nothing they can do. They pay him so much money. It's like you can't force them to do anything. You know what I mean. And plus now with all the players, for how often they get hurt. It's just like with the load management and all this other.
Graham:BS bullshit, it's just like. Dude don't give me the load management, I know, but yet here's the thing. Joel Embiid, I think he's played 12 games this year.
Announcer:Who he was the MVP.
Scott:I'm saying this as someone that doesn't follow basketball. No, I know who it is, but are we going to start calling him? Oh, okay, what's homeboy In Grimtono, saints Michael Thomas?
Graham:No.
Scott:Are we going to start calling him Michael Thomas 2.0? I mean, don't even get me started on Kawhi Leonard.
Graham:I mean I just Dude these hockey guys?
Scott:I don't know. These hockey guys break shit, get stitched up and come back the next period. Don't tell me load management, oh, load management. My knee hurts and, like PK Subban said the other night and I've heard this before from big-time coaches that I've listened to in press conferences Belichick used to always say it Are you hurt or are you injured? There's a difference.
Graham:Right. No, I mean, I totally agree. And look also, it's a mind frame Like there's a stigma. It's not stigma, but like there's just there's the way to play the game the right way. And it's just, in hockey, you're always going for it, you're always aggressive, you're always you know what I mean. It's just like I don't want to say it's not like giving it your all, it's just like you know what you're getting yourself into. You know what I mean. Like you know there's going to be fighting, you know it's going to be chippy, you know you're going to get banged against the boards and all the other stuff. Like so you expect that.
Graham:You know, in the other sports, where it's just like you can't expect. Like oh, someone ran into me so I twisted my ankle. Like, oh, like it's just, it's just, it's so different. So, that being said, I don't like the NBA is in a situation right now that like I don't know what they can do to change their situation. Like the only thing that I could think of is if you were to piggyback off what the NHL did and kind of do like a binatious thing, because now we have so many international players that like maybe you could do something like that. But even still, even if you did do that, these people are still making the money like right, what? What would make it different if you're playing with all guys from your, from your country or your region, versus just the people that are on the east coast, west coast, like how they've?
Graham:been doing it before. Like, what does the grouping of people mean? You know different. Like, at least in hockey. The only time that you saw team usa play against team canada was in the winter olympics. Like the only time. Like, does hockey they do countries? Do they do exhibitions?
Scott:yeah, and the biggest thing is the junior championship and when the united when the united states beat canada. The last time they had that.
Graham:That was a big deal no, it was no 100, and I'm just saying like I guess my point of bringing it up is just the rarity in which these countries play each other also adds to it. You know what I mean. So it's just like at this point, like, look, I don't think adam silver wants to do away with completely with the nba all-star game, but like at this point, like if these people just want to take a vacation, just like all right, let's scrap it for a year and whatever, like you like, they have to be losing money on this because if no one's watching it and they're spending money on doing this, who are they proving themselves to?
Scott:TP sent me a funny meme yesterday. I'm trying to find it on Instagram. Here you go he goes. The meme says it's Monday, february 17th in the year 2048. The college football national title is tonight following a 32-team playoff. The Super Bowl is in two weeks after a 20-game regular season.
Scott:Bracketologists everywhere are projecting the 96-team field in college basketball and 12 people watched last night's NBA All-Star game. I don't know, dude, I don't know. You know TP, we were talking yesterday. He was like mark my words. Ratings for the Olympics next year are going to be insane. I also wonder if the Stanley Cup will get a boost this year in ratings. And I responded I'm like, dude, all hockey games are going to be insane. I also wonder if the Stanley Cup will get a boost this year in ratings. And I responded I'm like dude, all hockey games are going to go up. I think Anything nationally televised ratings are going to be ridiculous. Now, I agree, I would love to see it with a new TV deal so they can spend some money on players and marketing the game. I'm like like we talked about last week it's so hard. You can't have a commercial every other three and out like in football. Yeah, it's tough.
Graham:I mean the only thing that, like we were saying last week, the only thing that can happen is just being on primetime or on major networks and just get that money, versus because, like you were saying, if you can't do commercials, like how are you gonna, you know, get that money? So yeah, something has to happen.
Scott:I told him, I told tp. I said they have to get creative. Somehow it's too good and intense not to have more eyes on it. And right, he ain't wrong. But he said what did he say they can do longer TV timeouts and intermissions. And it's tough, dude, I don't know.
Graham:No, I agree. I mean they tried doing it. They have that segment where it's what? The Hockey Night in America, or something. It's like dude saturday night it's in their blood up there. You know what I mean. Like they, they have that staple and it's just like, unfortunately, here in the us football has that staple of bro. Friday is high school, saturday is college sunday.
Scott:Sunday's pro monday's pro thursday is pro, so it's is pro, so it's like you have to.
Graham:It's like you got to compete with all these other markets, which is why, to be honest, how, like, how is baseball surviving? Just as like, cause it's there's just so many games, right, like I was talking to people at work about it and it's just honestly, with what the Dodgers have been doing and spending all this money and all the Mets and all those people, when the CBA is up, there's no way that the owners are going to allow these contracts to be gone that way. There has to be a salary cap, there has to be a floor and a cap, because teams just can't go. You just can't have the rich teams go.
Graham:All right, we're just going to spend a floor and a cap because teams just can't go like you just can't have the rich teams all right, we're just going to spend this money and defer it with ourself because, like we said before in previous previous episodes, I don't want to watch a sport that you're seeing the same four teams like what's the point of rooting for your personal team during the regular season, just to be like, okay, cool, we had rooting for you, but you're not going to make the playoffs? Or if you do make the playoffs then you get beat. You know what I mean.
Scott:I get where you're coming from, especially the salary cap thing. That has to happen somehow, some way.
Graham:I mean look at the NFL.
Scott:Tons of parity, right? I mean, every year there's five new teams in the playoffs. Every year Hockey's the same way. It's a hard salary cap, unless you're the Knights and you take advantage of the long-term IR which they're getting ready to do again. But I agree 100%. I mean not as far as the amount of games. Yeah, it's a shit ton amount of games, dude, I get it. But there is a little parity in Major League Baseball. Granted, you know the Dodgers are going to be in the playoffs, okay. You don't know the Mets are going to be in the playoffs, okay, you don't know the Mets are going to be in the playoffs, because look at the division they're in with the.
Scott:Braves and the Phillies.
Announcer:No, yeah, I mean.
Scott:But I mean, I get what you're coming from 100%, and so that's next in the notes. Spring training kicks off. Yesterday Did you see my boy Soto in his first at-bat as a Metropolitan?
Graham:He bunted Booba.
Scott:Dude. I'm in the car on the way to go somewhere and I get a notification and I'm like, net score one to nothing. And I'm like, oh, how'd they score in the first inning? And I open up my phone and I'm like, oh, how'd they score in the first inning? And I open up my phone and I'm like, oh damn, my boy just hit a 430-yard bomb in his first at-bat. Like, let's go. Couldn't be happier. I know you don't give two shits. Shut up Once again.
Scott:Yeah it's spring training, I get it. You can't get super excited about it, but you can if your team just signed the biggest contract in Major League Baseball $280 million. To homeboy in his first at-bat Rips one out.
Graham:I mean yeah, I get it.
Scott:Can't be mad at that.
Graham:You know, it's just such a long season and anything can happen again.
Scott:Yeah, I don't know, I know Anything can happen, just like us last year, dude. We were supposed to finish in third place in the division, which we did, but we still also made the playoffs. And look what happened.
Graham:I get it. It's just like you were saying I'm just ready for some parody in hockey, in baseball, because it would be nice to see teams like hey, we're going to force you to spend this money. We're going to force you to be, good, you know, it's just. It's like for people to be loyal fans of an organization that you know is just not ever going to be good, or like they'll be average at best. Like how do you just stay a fan of I just I don't.
Scott:I mean, yeah, if you love them, like I just I don't well, once again, you don't really have a dog in the fight that you're behind no yeah it's like me I mean I'm not, it's like me with hockey? Yeah, did I watch the western conference finals in the eastern conference finals and then stay in the Cup 100%. But until I had a dog in the fight I wasn't diehard and watching games all the time, you know.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:And I will never forget. You know the first season when the Knights you know I went to three or four games with Jerry and TP and you know the Knights played the Kings. The first round of the Knights. You know I went to three or four games with Jerry and TP and you know the Knights played the Kings. The first round of the playoffs. And that first game in the playoffs, tp was like dude, you have not experienced hockey as a fan until your team's in the playoffs. Just wait until tonight. It's going to be on a whole new level. It was, it was ridiculous. No, I agree. Same thing with baseball Playoff baseball, dude, it was ridiculous. No, I agree. Same thing with baseball. Playoff baseball, dude. Intense, every pitch.
Graham:No, it is.
Scott:When you're a fan of a team every pitch. And I know you like to cheer for the Pirates, you like to cheer for the Yankees and because you lived in LA, you cheer for the Doyers, but until you have one dog in the fight. You know, and like I've said numerous times on this show, the Mets were my first sports love yeah, ever. But anyhow, some other crazy things in baseball, something I never thought I would ever say the Yankees, facial hair policy, the end. When I saw that I was like I'm sorry.
Graham:Am I reading this wrong? Yeah, almost 50 years, 49 years. That law went into effect in 1976.
Scott:I'll never forget Johnny Damon going from the Red Sox to the Yankees and Johnny Damon looked like god dang, you know a Neanderthal out there with his long-ass hair and his big-ass beard for the Red Sox and then go to the Yankees clean-shaven as shit. Insane, insane, insane. About time I love it. Yeah, I mean, they still said you can have a beard. It's got to be trimmed good, and your hair can't be super long, but at least you can have a beard.
Graham:But I mean, I mean, like, I get it. It's very like an old school way of thinking. You know just prim and proper. I mean I get it. It's very like an old school way of thinking. You know, just prim and proper. I mean, I get it. And look, change is always a good thing. Um, I mean, I knew it would eventually go away. It's just I'm surprised that it happened when it did. I mean, look, I'm sure they were getting flack on it for so long now, especially with George Steinbrenner passing away. It's been like 20 years now at least since George Steinbrenner died.
Graham:Now it's hard to point to where it's just like, because you have to think about it. There's been players that were in negotiations to go to the Yankees and they're like wait a minute, I gotta shave no.
Announcer:Nah, I'm gonna get the same money over here.
Graham:I'm gonna go over here To know that you lost players based on your facial hero policy yeah like it can't be that important, and that's.
Scott:That's basically what it came down to. I guess some current player for the yankees went and said something and that's what started making them open up their eyes about it yeah, I mean, in mean, in this day and age, like bro, you can't Like, come on, you got to be realistic.
Scott:You're talking about? I mean, you're talking about golf, the gentleman game 75, 80% of the people we're watching on TV all have what A beard. And you're telling me a baseball player can't have a beard. I mean, my guys are literally playing 162 games, finishing up a nightcap in New York, and they get on the plane and go straight to wherever LA and now you've got to make them shave. I mean, my guy landed in LA at 4 o'clock in the morning. They're going straight to bed sleeping all day. Got to be at the stadium at 4.A at 4 o'clock in the morning. They're going straight to bed, sleeping all day. Got to be at the stadium. 435 for a 7 o'clock game. Yeah, I know shaving takes three minutes, but it's just one more thing to add on to your daily routine 100% agree, but another crazy Yankee thing.
Scott:What happens at the end of every home Yankee game? What music do they play? Frank Sinatra.
Graham:Oh yeah.
Scott:So they played New York New York after every home game win or lose. They're now going to play that's Life by Frank Sinatra after losses. Instead of New York, new York Only wins. Will they get the New York New York Right? Pretty wild, pretty wild.
Graham:I mean, yeah, if the Yankees are going to shake it up, they're going to shake it up. That's all you can say to that.
Announcer:Yeah, more power to them.
Graham:Yeah, that's all you can say to that. I mean more power to them, yeah, wow. Oh yeah, I had to think about that. Yeah, I mean, I've been to a couple games. That's what I was trying to think. I was like, I'm like what is it?
Scott:But let's jump real quick into golf because your boy told you to make a bet. That was as easy as waking up and brushing your teeth in the morning, and that is Jaeger top 10 plus money. Let's go easy winner. But uh, the one thing I want to bring up is the playoff between Brian Campbell and god. What is the dude's name? He hits it about eight miles. He was leading the tournament all week. Crazy last name, damn it.
Announcer:Look it up. Look it up while I'm talking.
Scott:I am On the second playoff hole. Brian Campbell literally hits it out of bounds Hits a tree, hits a cart path, kicks it back in play, wins the event. Pot Guider yeah, Something like that Is that how you say it.
Announcer:Yeah, I don't know.
Scott:The guy hits it a mile though. Yeah, from South America. The crazy thing is Jake Knapp, who won this event last year. The news he went from being a bouncer at a bar in Southern California, won it last year for his first win, and then this Campbell guy wins it today. Yeah, they were college teammates and roommates.
Graham:Back to back.
Scott:That's pretty dope. It was insane dude. I mean this Campbell guy's been on the tour forever, lost his car, got his car back, yada, yada, yada, gets his first dub. It was sick to see. I love watching first-time winners. Oh, the best Life changed you saw the clip of the wife. Yeah, his wife like was losing her mind, I mean.
Announcer:Oh dude, balling the stress, balling the stress.
Scott:You know, I mean it was a sick tournament to watch, but you know, I don't know man, I don't know man, I don't know. Golf is golf. We got the tournament at the Bear Trap coming up this week. It used to be called the Honda. I don't even know what the Cogna's in, or some bullshit this week. Then we got Arnie's Place. You know, saw some news. They had a huge meeting with Tiger Trump, jay Monahan and the dude from Live. Rumors are Live players could be playing on the PGA Tour as soon as the Players Championship in two or three weeks. Don't know how they're going to do it. Don't know how they're going to pull it off, but that seems to be the rumor flying out there. I hope it happens. I hate the fighting.
Graham:No, I mean, so do I, but still there's only 100 people that can have tour cards.
Scott:Next year.
Graham:I mean there's only probably.
Announcer:Next year.
Graham:Next year? Yeah, but my point in saying that is the people that are on live. What is there like 50 guys? How many of those 50 guys are going to have their cards next year?
Scott:Yeah, and people that are already into the Players Championship, which is the fifth major. I mean, who from Liv is going to be in that field? I can tell you two, but I couldn't tell you the third Bryson and Brooks. Yeah, you're in. Who else?
Graham:Well, it's just like all the big guys that we know they're all older, right? Well, it's just like all the big guys that we know they're all older. Like none of the young studs I mean the only thing like. I mean Cam Smith, does he even like? I just get the opinion that he's just as happy, like he's the only person that is just like you know what. I'm actually completely happy with this whole situation. I already got my major. I got one. I got paid.
Scott:I got a lot of zeros in my bank account. I live all the way.
Graham:Yeah, like I live all the way down in Australia, which those flights are brutal. I don't care if you're on a private jet or not. Like he spends time with his family, he spends more time down there. It's just like you know it really just comes down to, I mean what are you looking? For what's the meaning of life?
Graham:like what like are you know, not everyone wants to be tiger woods and has to win every event. Like no one wants to be the greatest player of all time. Like there's some people that just want to be good enough at their job that they can play on the tour. Or they can just be a player. You know what I?
Scott:mean, like Kevin Kisner said three or four years ago, there ain't nothing wrong with coming in the top 20 on the PGA Tour. Facts and people crucified him for saying that. And he goes I'm coming in the top 20 in every event. I'm getting 150 a week, yeah, and you're? You're mad at me for saying I'm coming in the top 20 and I'm cool with it. Sign me up.
Graham:I mean I don't even I can make 50 G's a week. I don't even have to play in every event.
Scott:I was playing three and I'm cool. Yeah right, I mean dude but it's going to be interesting to see you know how it pans out, and I don't want to spend a shit ton of time on this because I don't know all the details. But how are you going to make it up to Rory? How are you going to make this up to Ludwig for not going over there when Jon Rahm signed a $300-whatever million contract, and now they're?
Graham:back. Yeah, it's called the TGL.
Scott:But now they're back playing in your field when Rory could have gone and gotten that money. Yeah, I mean.
Graham:Well, look, I mean, rory even said it he's just like. You know what he's just like for as hard as we hammered this back when we did right and for instead, exactly, and look, I get it now he's just at the point where it's just like dude.
Graham:I just want this to be I mean, a happy family like I just want to go back to playing the best guys in the world and it's just like I get it. But the thing is this you can't be upset at the guys that left because they got punished. The only difference is their punishment was yeah, they don't get to play in majors, they don't get to have that opportunity. But for them to not have the opportunity to play, they got paid X amount of money. So it's just like you can't use the money as the yes, the money is the reason why they left, but for three years now, plus or a solid three years they haven't been able to play in the events that they should.
Scott:They lost World Working Points.
Graham:What I'm trying to say is it's not like we should punish them more for taking the money. Well, everyone had a choice. You could have done it too. You just picked legacy over money. That's really what it comes down to.
Scott:You said it earlier and we said it way back in the day. It made sense for these older guys to do it because, if you remember what I called it back when all this shit was going on, I called it the 401k for the PGA Tour players. Henrik Stenson bye. Patrick Harrington bye. Well, no, he's on the senior tour. But these older guys, bubba Watson yeah, he's not even on there anymore. He got booted.
Graham:Patrick Reed yeah.
Scott:It made sense for these guys to take the cash. It was their retirement, so real quick. And then we're going to jump into the nfl. I I'm chuckling right now because before we got on air, graham goes. So what do you think? You think we can make it 45 minutes? Look at the time. Yeah, you're welcome. The first minute was you learning how to introduce the show. So so we're at 46, but whatever. So the live tournament last week averaged 12,000 viewers on FS2. Okay, the American cornhole league averages 50,000 viewers, so more people watch cornhole than want to watch Rom bryson dechambeau play golf. The end. That was great. Two billion dollars spent there, but whatever uh, okay, yeah, no, but okay.
Graham:A whole last thing, and I'm just gonna make this one point what? What if you swapped the players that went? Okay, keep, we keep bracing on this side, keep brooks and keep rom. What if rory went over? What if the other people like it would be the same thing I'm saying it shouldn't matter what player at what you I don't think so what did you?
Graham:just because you think they move the stick, the needle, more, I think there's more people loyal to the PGA Tour than to this new thing. No, of course, but that's my point. But what I'm saying is, if Rory left and went to live, if Tiger did it.
Scott:Well, if Tiger did it? I mean, like we always say, Tiger is the needle.
Graham:Fair, fair. Okay, I'll slap myself for that.
Scott:So if the thing is, here's what I'm trying to say like all these golf podcasts everybody's been talking about rankings are down, Viewerships down on every platform. Well, yeah, because they're not all at the same place, Of course. Viewership, Right. You know, at the beginning there was I'm pro-Liv, I'm pro-PGA Tour. Now people are just like F you Can we put all the best players in the world back on the same goddamn golf course besides, four times a year, Right? And like you and I said, before any of this shit started, the only thing we cared about as far as golf tournaments was what the thing that happens every other year known as the rider cup.
Scott:That's right, all I care about. I want the best players for the united states, the best players for that other team that we can't seem to beat playing, and that's all I care about. Dude, you know I.
Graham:I just, I just feel like golf, like golf needed tiger woods. I mean it needed. It starts to keep building up the game and what tiger did for it, I mean there's obviously it is what it is, but my, my, where I'm getting at it with it now. It's just like it's almost like they feel like golf is at a certain level already and they feel like it can branch out, and it's just like yo, there's only still the same amount of people watching golf. If you take those people and you break them up, you're diluting the game is really what it comes down to, because before you did that, people were still only I mean, look, when Tiger was hurt and all that stuff, people were still only watching the majors and the couple main events, the big-time events. And this is because, obviously, this is before the elevated events. So it's just like when you say that's not about to live, like yeah, but like that, I feel like the numbers make it sound worse than it is. I mean, believe me, that sounds terrible 12,000 people.
Graham:And I'll say this I mean, how many people watch this open today? I don't know.
Scott:Those numbers aren't out and I told you.
Graham:Well, that's my point, but that's also because it's on NBC or CBS.
Scott:And I think I talked about this last week or maybe the week before, when I was down at the PGA show. The message that was going on throughout the entire show was golf is at a point right now where it was in the early 2000s because of tiger. There's more golf. There's more golf courses right now being built than there were in the last X amount of years. Okay, and the only thing and possible I think we talked about this, I don't know the only thing that and my boss went down to the golf course managers association meetings down in Tampa last week and that was the same message and the only thing that makes sense to me yeah, pga tour ratings are down. However, when Rory won a couple of weeks ago at pebble, those were the best ratings for a PGA tour event since like 2022.
Scott:But, yeah, I think people are getting their golf fix through all of these YouTube golf platforms. Yeah, yeah, bob does sports Good, good, the foreplay guys from Barstool. And why is that? Because I can go watch the Bob does sports guys and I can watch them play a four-man scramble versus a PGA Tour player, and I can watch that episode on YouTube in an hour and 20 minutes.
Scott:Yeah, no I agree, and same with the good good guys. Same with the good good guys, same with the foreplay guys. They're making golf fun again, like Tiger did way back, when the only difference is Tiger is the GOAT, arguably the GOAT, and these dudes that we're watching on YouTube right now suck just like me and you, and they're watching them play on tv against world-class players.
Graham:No, I mean, like it's, it's it's. The game has just evolved in such a way that, with youtube now and how things are, like, it's really changed it. I mean, I think I think when the, when the merger happens, you know things will get better, but they're still gonna have the same stuff is still gonna happen. You know what I mean. Like, and then obviously, with the TGL, like, things will still move forward. I think things will kind of get back to what it was. Um, it's just I don't know. I mean like, does it just feel like it'll be business as usual? Everything's just gonna go back to whatever it is, and then just all the angst is just, it is what it is. And then, I mean, the really thing that just comes down to is are people really going to be bitter about the people that left? Because from some interviews that I've seen with other tour players talking about it, they're just at the point now where they're like dude, we're over this shit, make it stop.
Announcer:Come back.
Graham:Yeah, you know what I mean. They're just tired of talking about it. Let's get it over with. And look, like I said earlier, they took the money, they lost out on opportunities, they lost out on sponsorship, like you know. It's just like I mean, there was actions and there was reactions and it's just we're at a point now where we're just ready to be like, okay, at least we can say now at this point and this is something that I said from the beginning which, in the beginning, you always were saying that I was, you know, pro-Liv, and it wasn't like I was pro-Liv, I was pro the advancement of the game.
Graham:And I think now we're at the point that look what happened. Now we have the TGL, now we have all this stuff, I mean, and bryson chambo, dj bo, I mean, with his youtube stuff, just building it all up. Everything that we're seeing now is just a microcosm of the effects of things that happened three, four years ago. You know what I mean. It's just especially now with content creators and that being such more of a big thing it's huge, that it's just huge we're exactly like.
Graham:We're at a point now where it's just like the thing is. I think it almost it kind of divides us too, though you know what I mean In the sense of just like the age bracket, because most I mean, let's be honest, what do you think the average before the YouTube golfers came on the scene? What do you think the average age of the people that watch golf is?
Scott:48? For an average event maybe For a major it's probably going to go down, but I 100% agree with what you're saying, 100%. The only thing that I hated about Liv was they said they're going to live to grow the game. There's no grow in the game.
Scott:The only person that I can give a shout out that went to live. That is actually done that I know I might be wrong. Don't yell at me that I know that is done. Something with the money they got from signing with live is none other than Harold Varner. And Harold Varner has put a shit ton of money into facilities and his hometown in Charlotte for golfers, young golfers, to come and practice and play. And I also got to give a shout out. You know where Harold Varner played in college, right, e-c-u, so just throwing that out there. But the whole growing the game thing, you know the PGA Tour dude. We're 57 minutes into this episode and we haven't even talked about the NFL. That's why, in a nutshell, this podcast was created.
Graham:Yeah, I mean, I agree with you.
Scott:I mean I got to go get another beer because we're not ending this before we even get into the NFL. This might be a long episode. Sorry about your editing tonight, but you're off tomorrow. Oh no, you're not, You're late, but whatever, dude like you. We just talked about it. There's nothing more that needs to be said. We want to see the best players in the world playing at the same venue. I'm over it, you're over it. How do you think the guys on tv that are walking the walk and talking the talk every week, you think?
Scott:they're tired of listening to these questions at their press conferences?
Graham:of course they are brando champley, everybody, dude, everybody, I know, it's everybody Brando Chamblee, everybody, dude, everybody.
Announcer:I know.
Scott:It's everybody, that guy. I mean it's time for us, besides the majors, to see these guys playing again. And you know, part of it goes back and I'll forever say this Liv is the Roman numeral for what? 54. Because they only play 54 holes. You only get world ranking points if you play a 72-hole tournament. If they would have named their tour whatever the hell that's going to be in Roman numerals, we wouldn't even care, because these players would be allowed to play in the majors. They knew what they were getting when they signed up. They knew they weren't getting world ranking points. They knew the deal.
Announcer:So don't come whining to me about.
Graham:I'm not exempt into the US Open or this or that 100%, we'll just finish this horse, this dead horse that we're beating. If you're the organization and you're this is like alright, we're going to come up with a new thing. If you know, like you have to think that eventually you're going to get these world. Like you can't start something when you know these players will not get world ranking points. Like you don't think like, did they really think that just offering them all this money, it will be enough for them to be like okay, I don't care about this anymore.
Scott:It obviously worked.
Graham:I mean yeah.
Scott:But when you got guys like Brooks, who've won the US Open before they went there, he's exempt into the majors for X amount of years. You've got Rahm that won the Masters, you've got Bryson that won the US Open.
Announcer:They're exempt.
Graham:Yeah, I mean, I just— You've got Phil who's exempt into every Masters. Isn't Phil like 55 by now? Like he's like Because he won the PGA when he was 50? And how long ago was that? Like four years at least, at least, yeah.
Scott:That's what I'm saying.
Graham:I mean he should he said he should be playing. I wouldn't say should be playing on the tour, but on the PGA tour. But like I mean he could come back. I mean obviously just do the majors and play like a couple of them here and there, but like yo kick it with the other homies your age on the Champions Tour, like what's up?
Scott:No cuts, guaranteed money.
Graham:Well, it's not even that, guys that you and I watched 98 to like 2008,. Like those years, like all of those guys. They're like primed, ready to go on the tour Now. Ernie yells, you know, like all those guys, it's just like I mean, it's, yeah, I you ain't wrong, it's time.
Graham:Let's just get it over with Speaking of time. Hey, you ain't wrong, it's time. Let's just get it over with Speaking of time. Hey, newsflash. Did you know that the salary cap in the NFL guess what? It went up again, Surprise. Oh wait, Was that a surprise?
Scott:No, not when the NFL is making a shit ton on every platform. Everything, everything, everything.
Graham:Like you can't just keep paying quarterbacks more money. Like you have to play the other players on your team. Like you can't have these quarterbacks making now $65 million but yet you're running back on the league and get $15 million Dude, and that's why. You're telling me Saquon Barkley ain't worth $15 million. Saquon Barkley should have been getting $25 million this year for what he did.
Scott:And, like Billy says, every time we bring up Saquon Barkley, he goes that Giants general manager should be hired and fired every day for the rest of his career for not giving my guy. The Giants should hire him in the morning and fire him by noon every day for not paying Saquon. But the salary cap, dude, they're announcing it's going to be between 275 and 282 million. And something I heard the other day and I put it in the notes 10 years ago, only 10 years ago, okay, the salary cap was 140 million. 10, only 10 years ago, okay, the salary cap was $140 million. 10 years ago, three years ago, it was barely over $200 million.
Graham:That's why they all want to play football, bro.
Scott:It's nuts, nuts.
Graham:Well, that or the NBA I mean the top guys in the NBA are making $60 million. Now We'll be making almost $70 million yeah. It's just insane.
Scott:But there's only 12 people on a. How many people are on an NBA roster? 12, 13?, yeah, and eight play Nine, yeah, pretty much. I mean you got 53 on a roster, or actually 56, 57 on an NFL roster, but only 53 can dress. That's why you got these dudes in your organization, these salary cap negotiators that know what the hell they're doing. Ed McGuire has been with the Chargers forever and his only job is salary cap negotiations. It's him and Ortiz negotiating with the player's agent and creative ways to get around salary cap. You know sign-in bonuses, this, that. But dude rumors flying around all over the league. Dude and the one that's making the biggest headlines is Stafford got permission to search for a trade. We talked about it a little bit last week. I don't know, man.
Graham:I mean Stafford's biggest value Last week, I don't know man, stafford's biggest value.
Scott:I'm going to get a beer while you're talking about this because I'm out. I didn't know we were going to go this long. This is great.
Graham:His biggest value. For the Rams to get what they want would be to go to a team that has the pieces and is a quarterback away. How many teams are in that type of situation? I can be, you know I don't want to say naive or a homer here, but Pittsburgh could be, you know, one of those teams. I mean, look, we still need a little help in free agency and obviously with the draft. But just kind of thinking about it, like, who are the teams that's a quarterback away that if you plugged and played right now, he's going to be the difference maker.
Graham:I mean, we're looking for a team that was the Rams a few years ago, that traded Goff to get him and those couple of first round picks and look what happened. They won the Super Bowl that year. So it can work, but it's all perceived value. The Rams are saying go out there, see what you can get. And I'm kind of curious what would a team give up for him? I mean, yeah, the Rams say they want a first, but is someone really giving them a first, and then especially a team that really wants to get him really giving them a first, and then especially a team that really wants to get him. I mean I, what are you gonna give your 15th overall pick? Or you can give away your 20th overall pick, or 28th. I mean I, well, at 28 you're a good team, you don't even need a quarterback.
Graham:So I just I just can't foresee a first round pick going um. Would you give up a second? Most likely. I mean, look, he's 36 now, I believe. I mean, look, he can still sling it. Dude has an arm. He had a little bit of injuries. You know these last two years per se, um. But I mean he's a machine, he's. I mean I won't say first ballot, but I mean he's a hall of famer. You can't say that he's not. I mean, I'd argue I've. I've know we've made this point already on the show before, but I would feel more confident putting in matt stafford over eli manning into the hall of fame all day, every day. Granted, they're both still going to get in, but I'm just saying I can make a case for Stafford over Eli, no problem.
Graham:Just the fact that he beat Tom Brady twice in two of the most unbelievable games ever, and he won MVP both of those times. Like I get it, you beat the undefeated Patriots, and like I get it. But when your record as a starter is barely over .500, and then your touchdowns and interceptions is barely over .500, it's like Not to mention your defense both of those games and seasons of their work.
Announcer:Oh yeah.
Scott:Stupid.
Graham:Yeah, I mean that's what I'm saying.
Scott:I mean we're also talking about a league, where Brad Johnson won a Super Bowl. Why?
Graham:Defense. I mean all three phases. You want to talk about defense. What do the Eagles do? What did that defensive line do? Like, yeah, you need a prolific offense, but you need to have a defense. I mean, I think I saw a stat that said the last 10 super bowl winners, all their defenses were top tens. Believe it?
Scott:100 believe it like.
Graham:So, that being said, now I'm sure you were listening like can you think of a team I'm thinking the only team that stafford's going to is playoff ready team. Right, how many playoff ready teams don't have a quarterback or could be a playoff ready team? I mean, there's a couple teams that took us by surprise, obviously. What denver did even. I mean, I mean, granted, they didn't make the playoffs, but they were right there.
Scott:Denver made the Washington was a piece away.
Graham:Yeah, sorry, stop myself. I'm don't know why I said that. Um, I guess are there teams that we don't think could be a playoff, like I mean, like who could he go to? And not being a homer for me with Pitzer, but like where could he go that you're just like throw him in there. I mean, it ain't the Giants If he went to the Jets.
Scott:We've seen that with Rodgers going to the Jets, Granted he was hurt. To answer your question, I have no idea what the right answer is. There isn't.
Graham:So if there's not enough value, what do the Rams do? Because his number is large.
Scott:Yeah, I looked it up 49.7.
Graham:That's what I'm saying seven years old so they obviously want to try to get something for him, like they're not cutting him right you can't do that so they got to pay him. So what? Okay, if you're stan kronenke or oh. No, that's the owner, it's Les what's his name?
Graham:Yeah, I forget the GM there? I can't think of it. If you're him, you're going to catch 22 Because what you could do with that money Based if he goes away? Teams have to know that situation, so they're going to loathe ball them on the trade 100%.
Scott:What do?
Graham:you give up for him.
Scott:You're not giving a first.
Graham:I'm not giving a first.
Scott:No, no, no, no chance.
Graham:Is a second too much.
Scott:Like you said, you were asking what team is a plug and play that he could help instantly. If he goes to your team, does he give the Steelers a better chance outdoors he's never played outdoors than Fields or do the Steelers go all out and try to get Sam Darnold, who's 10 years younger?
Graham:no, because they don't want to pay Darnold, but Darnold wants to get Sam Darnold, who's 10 years younger. No, because they don't want to pay Darnold what Darnold wants to get paid and plus, yeah, he played well, but you saw what happened in the playoff game. Whose fault was that?
Scott:I don't disagree.
Graham:I mean, my thing is, they don't want to trade him within the division. What about him going to?
Scott:Seattle. I know that's not going to happen unless he gets cut.
Graham:I mean, that was the only. I'm just trying to think of teams that could be, because the Raiders need too many people.
Graham:I'm just going division to buy division in my head and I'm like what do people need? You know what I mean? Saints have too much to go in a way. I'm just going through all the divisions and it's just like I mean maybe I mean Indy, I don't know they got it's. You know like it's just such a he's in, he's in such a weird position that it's just like you're dangling that fruit out and you're just like come on, can I get some nibbles? Anyone Feeler? And it's like is the price right? Is this going to be another one of those scenarios where it's just like how did this guy go for that little? Or how did he go over there for that? How did they get this guy, I don't know Go for that little? Or how do you go over there for that? How did they get this guy?
Scott:Like I don't know, like Randy Moss, to the Patriots out here for a sixth-round pick from the.
Graham:Raiders, dude, I don't know how, what? No, only in the NFL can one man's trash be another man's trash Like oh, let's just get rid of him. Like he's a cancer to the locker room. So let's just get rid of him for nothing. And the next thing you know it's like I'm an all-pro now.
Scott:It's crazy.
Graham:Yeah, he's washed, he's washed.
Scott:I don't know what to say about Stafford. That's a weird one.
Graham:Totally weird one. I mean it'd be in division. I'd say trade him for the card bills for what's-his-name. I mean I don't even like.
Scott:Murray's getting paid $45. At least he's 10 years younger.
Graham:I'm scanning my brain right now. The different teams are like where could he go? Either he stays or it's Pittsburgh, or who yeah?
Scott:It's a great question. That's why we love the NFL because it keeps on.
Graham:I mean I'll take him for a year. I mean, if I had to make a bet right now, you know if my life was on the line he's staying, I agree, he's going to have to renegotiate that.
Scott:But the problem is, if he renegotiates that contract, what's that mean? They've got to put years on the back end of it. He's 37.
Graham:Yeah, but then they'll just cut him.
Scott:You're still.
Graham:Yeah, no, but it'll be signing bonus. Still, that still affects yeah, no, but it'll be signing bonus.
Scott:Still, that still affects? Yeah, it does. Signing bonus goes against cap. Signing bonus goes against cap If you have to. I thought I gave you $10 million as a signing bonus for a two-year deal. The cap you get, half it goes. They divide it for every year you're under contract.
Graham:Oh, I always thought Tom Brady just took less.
Scott:The reason why he took less is because they offered him less. But they would give him a $20 million sign-in bonus for five years and X amount on his salary, and so the sign-in bonus was only four or five a year. And that's the thing going in with BOSA. If everybody's saying renegotiate Bosa's contract, that means we have to extend him. You know, if we cut him we free up 25 more million. He only is 11 of dead cap space. If we renegotiate it.
Graham:And there's people to get, yeah.
Scott:I mean if we, if we cut Bosa, if we renegotiate it and there's people to get. Yeah, I mean if we, if we cut bosa, if we cut pipkins which is probably going to happen we're going to have around with the new cap. We're going to have about 100 to spend, which is insane. Yeah, yeah, but once again, it's which way do you want to attack everything you know?
Graham:Tell you one thing Najee is going to look good in that Charger jersey.
Scott:That's another crazy thing, steelers, why, why are you going to let him go? He's had 1,000 yards every season. He's young.
Graham:I don't disagree. I think it's all how much money I mean, it's all I mean, I don't. He's young. I don't disagree. I think it's all how much money I mean, it's all I mean, I don't.
Scott:He's young.
Announcer:Yeah.
Scott:I don't think, I mean I don't think the Chargers are going to sign him just because this running back class is ridiculous, coming out, absolutely ridiculous.
Graham:Which is why I don't think Pittsburgh would sign. You know, what I mean.
Announcer:Pittsburgh they have no problem drafting a running back.
Scott:Yeah, it's going to be a tough year to be a free agent running back with these people coming out of the draft.
Graham:Which is ridiculous because the cap's going up. How can you spend more money on other people but you keep devaluing the running back Make it make sense, and we just saw what giving a stud running back does. You'd think he'd be the person that helps the situation, but when you're one of one, and Derrick Henry, yeah, I know, but anyhow, we got the combine coming up.
Scott:We got free agency starting in less than a month March Madness is around the corner. Sports are going. We're not even in an NFL season and we just went an hour and X minutes and Graham was worried about 45.
Graham:No, I just you. I had a reason for that, all right, and there's no reason to get into it now, but anyway, anyhow.
Scott:Uh, what next week should be good. Who knows what we're going to talk about, but I have something for an hour.
Graham:It's like so hockey's back, all right, cool. No, you know like what's like there's no all-star weekend like now. It's like all right, regular hockey games, spring training, nba, I don't know, college baskets, we'll figure it out.
Scott:We got a little golf, I don't know, college baskets, we'll figure it out Little golf, but Graham get us out of here.
Graham:Scott, as I always like to say at this time, it's a pleasure doing the podcast with you. I enjoy how you make fun of me all the time and say things that don't need to be mentioned because they're going to get edited. But, all that being said, I love you. I love looking at your face right now. You're going to light me up right now and I can't wait for it. So, that being said, as the best homie always says, buh-bye.
Scott:Good night friends. Good night Graham. Please memorize the opening of our episode. It's only episode number X and you still can't get it right. Slap your face moment before we ever hit record. I love you, booba.
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