Bald Guys On The Bench
Bald Guys On The Bench
Chargers Outmuscle Steelers On Primetime
Recorded November 11th, 2025
Two best friends, one primetime gut punch, and a pop pass into the record books. We open with Veterans Day gratitude and a whirlwind of weekend stories—from Buffalo bars pouring Labatt Blue to a chilly 5 a.m. swim run—before locking into the only thing that matters in November: who actually wins at the line of scrimmage.
We walk through Chargers vs Steelers with clear eyes. The safety that changed the quarterback’s clock. Third downs that evaporated. A defense that tackled clean, hit on time, and suffocated drives. Keenan Allen passes Antonio Gates as the Chargers’ all-time receptions leader on a smart, low-risk pop pass, while role players step up with timely breakups and heavy hits. One missed deep ball early could have tilted the night, but physical football and mistake-free series closed the door.
Then we zoom out. Coaching seats warm not just because of records, but because messages get old; even good programs need fresh voices. Win-now gambles on aging stars demand a Plan B that builds tomorrow’s core while the window is cracked today. The AFC looks wide open—Herbert is on pace for gaudy production despite missing elite tackles—while the NFC’s balance shines with the Rams and Seahawks lining up for a true measuring-stick game. And yes, the streaming wars matter: when ESPN vanishes from your grid, tradition breaks. We trade workarounds, laugh about surprise corporate cameos, and celebrate the rituals that make football feel like home, from suite-side anthem FaceTimes to a fantasy-league prank that finally wakes up the group chat.
Tap play for a grounded breakdown, some hard truths about roster building and coaching timelines, and a reminder that November football rewards teams that block, tackle, and think. If you enjoyed the ride, follow the show, share it with a friend, and drop a review—what’s your hottest Week 11 take?
Welcome to another episode of the Bald Guys on the Bench podcast with your hosts Graham Cohen and Scott Wasco.
Scott:What's up everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the Bald Guys on the Bench. It's Veterans Day. Happy Veterans Day to everyone out there. Thanks for your service. I'm here with my boy Graham. What's going on over there in Vegas, buddy?
Graham:Ooh, what up, brother Scott? It's a pleasure. It's uh it ain't the desert right now, brother. It's a little chilly out here, actually. Surprisingly.
Scott:Don't talk to me about cold, bro. It's 36 degrees right now. Ava has to go to swim practice and have to be there at 5 a.m.
Graham:Oof.
Scott:She swims from 5 to 6:30 every morning. Oof. Snow flurries this morning.
Graham:Oof. It's outdoors?
Scott:No, no, no, no. It's indoors. But on her way to practice, there were flurries.
Graham:Oh, Scott, it's a pleasure. Let's get into it. Let's grab one and crack one. Let's get it started.
Scott:Let's do it. Let's go. Uh, before we even jump into it, Mike Rosenberg, old friend of mine, happy birthday. Texted him earlier, and he's like, dude, love the podcast. Can you throw some New York love in there? Uh, no, we can't because you're a Yankees fan and a Giants fan. So, Rosie, sorry, but we will give you a little birthday shout out. So, dude, I don't know if you ever met Mike Rosenberg, and I hope I'm gonna have to send him this. Dude, Rosenberg was a cook at SCGA. Oh, wow. And he was awesome. And he made this amazing sandwich. And the amazing sandwich was called the Red Sox Suck Sandwich. And when you ordered it, you had to literally order it by the can I get that red sock suck sandwich? Dude, it was awesome. Awesome. So we'll have to send that out to Rosie.
Announcer:That's hilarious.
Scott:Yeah, dude. Anyhow, uh, it's Tuesday night, you know, Veterans Day. Uh, we watched that barn burner of a Monday night football game last night instead of recording. But before we get into anything, and before we get into your weekend, uh show the people what they want to see, Graham. We had a little friendly wager on the on our team Sunday night, and I'm pretty sure your team lost, so take that shot.
Graham:I thought the bet was null and void if the team doesn't show up. I mean, I don't think they got off the plane when they flew into LAX.
Scott:I mean I don't think they got onto it.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:Jeez.
Graham:But hey, I'm a man of my word and I'm just depressed.
Scott:I don't have any liquor here to take a shot with you. But facts.
Graham:Facts. But bet's a bet. Cheers.
Scott:You got it. Was that any good?
Graham:Actually, it was kind of tasty.
Scott:Okay. All right. So, you know, before we even get into anything, how was your weekend? What'd you do? You know, what's going on in the kitchen?
Graham:What's going on in the kitchen? Um weekend was good. I had, well, you know, it's funny. So, as you were, you said, happy birthday to your boy, one of my boys, uh, my buddy, my old roommate from uh when I caddied in New York, my buddy from Buffalo, today is actually his birthday as well, 1111. And he and his wife were supposed to come out for this weekend, right? They were gonna come out for a few days. They ended up uh no-showing, they canceled it last minute, but he said uh one of their other friends, him and his wife, are coming out because like the wife was here for a conference. She actually works for the Sabres, which was pretty cool. We were talking about that. So they were in town. I met up with them, hung out, went out a couple nights with them, had a really good time. We went to, I found, well, I heard from a beer rep that there's a bar in town that's a Buffalo Bills bar. And the only reason I found out was because I noticed that he had a Labat Blue piece in his in like his carry thing. And I was just like, wait, wait, wait, wait, there's a bar that sells Labat Blue, and he's like, Yeah, yeah, it's this spot over here. And I'm like, Alright. So when my when the my friends came in town, like, hey, where do you want to watch the game? Like, I just figured we watched it at the sports book. He's like, nah, let's go somewhere else. And I was just like, there is a Buffalo Bills bar. And when they when they heard that, they were like, Well, let's fucking go. And let me tell you, it was pretty legit. I mean, I I wouldn't, it wasn't a dive bar. I mean, it was smaller. I mean, it was dive-esque per se, but let me tell you, every person in there wearing a Bills jersey, every TV on was was on the Bills. Why are you giving me that look?
Scott:Are you talking about the Bills and Chiefs game? Wait, that was last week. Yeah, that's why I'm giving you that look. Hold on a second. If I remember correctly, the Bills got boat raced by the Dolphins.
Graham:Okay, hold on, hold on. Wow, I can't even get my week straight. They were here for like a week. I couldn't remember for which week it was. All right, slap myself. That was last week. Oh, all right.
Scott:Well sorry, sorry, folks.
Graham:Well, I was still hanging out with them this weekend, and then other than that, uh just watching some college football games, and then what happened happened with Sunday football. And, you know, well since my game, our game wasn't on until Sunday night, I didn't get up early to watch the early games where Pittsburgh usually starts. You know, it's 10 o'clock for me, so I was like, you know what? I'll set it. I'll get up for like the second half of the first game. And when I got up and I saw those scores, I was like, yep, I'm going back to sleep. So that's how my weekend went. How did yours go?
Scott:Yeah, you were not a happy camper when you woke up on Sunday.
Graham:That's an understatement.
Scott:Yeah, it is. Oh, and as soon as you started whining and complaining about losing your bets, I was just like, Man, I hope Graham's day gets worse and the Chargers beat the Steelers.
Graham:That's all I could think. Sorry.
Scott:Son of a bitch. But anyhow, uh, I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I mean, that's no, I know sorry.
Announcer:I had faith.
Scott:Not enough, but anyhow, weekend, I mean, started Thursday, Kellen's last JB game. You know how that went? First play of the game, dude. Dude blocks him from behind, comes out of the game. This is the last game of the year, playing the worst team they play, and everybody was fired up. I mean, they won 32 to nothing, and he asked the coach, coach, you know, he's third string running back. If we get up, can I get some carries? And the coach is like, of course. And he was so fired up for that. And first play the game, dude. And if that kid's if that when it happened, I thought he broke his arm. Yeah. I mean, like I told you, the way he ran off the field, I was like, oh. But one play, that was it. But you know, last year, last game of the year, concussion didn't get to play. So, anyhow, that's how Thursday night went. Then, you know, your boy went to go get an oil change same day, and more bad news. Thanks for playing. My car holding the radiator, leaking, cooling all. I'm like, oh man. So then had a decision, but made the decision. New whip, can't wait. Got it yesterday. You saw it, stoked on it. Uh, but that was my weekend. I mean, got a little fired up about UNC basketball, dude, playing Kansas Friday night. I had to buy the package from Sling again. Thanks, YouTube TV. Another F U to U. Dude, Carolina's getting smoked and in the first half, down nine, and then win by like 15. And this Caleb Wilson freshman, dude, guy's insane. Not even gonna get into that yet. Still a little early for college basketball, but the dude is first rook, first freshman in Carolina history to have his first two games with 20 plus points. Wow. There's been some players. Yeah, a few. Yeah, exactly. But uh, other than that, watch a little college football, dude. Watch Penn State and Indiana game, Jiminy Crickets, that catch at the end. Like, are you kidding me right now? Wow. Wow, is all you can say. And give props to Penn State, dude. They played.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:They played hard.
Graham:Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. I don't bet you the last three weeks and you get blown out, then the one week I do bet you, you lose.
Scott:Shit. I mean, if it wasn't for about that much, and we're talking about that much, I mean, a frog hair, they win that game. What else happened over the weekend? Oh, something we both are gonna smack ourselves in the face for.
Graham:Okay.
Scott:Last week when we were talking Dodgers and pitchers and everything, oh, yeah. We totally forgot the bulldog. And that is aka Oral Herscher. Yeah. Dude, how did we forget that? Especially I'm gonna I'm gonna fall on the sword more than you. Yeah. Okay. Because one of my best friends, Johnny, that you've met, uh not only was he teammates with Oral Herscher at Bowling Green, they were roommates.
Graham:That's insane.
Scott:Like, uh I don't know how I forgot that. So I'll lead the charge here with the smack. One, two, three. You're welcome. I mean, I'm sorry, world. What anyhow, uh, what else, dude? What else before we just jump right in? What else stands out in college football?
Graham:I um uh trying to think. There wasn't there wasn't really any upsets. I mean, the teams you thought well, I mean, Miami, but that was the previous week. Yeah. Uh, you know, it's just it is what it is. Like, look, it's getting down to the nitty-gritty. Like, we're already in the second week of November already, pretty much, or this weekend coming up. So, how many, what is there, how many more games left before conference championships?
Scott:Well, two Michigan always plays Ohio State Thanksgiving weekend. Yeah, so two more weeks. And then the week after that, yeah. We got yeah, it's time. It's crazy. Speaking of crazy, my boy, coach Bobby Wilder. Let's go. Number five in the country in the F whatever, FCS. Okay, 10 and oh. Guess where they play this weekend. Have I told you this?
Graham:Oh, yeah, they yeah, they play at Kentucky, right?
Scott:Where the shit did that come from, coach? Right? Whatever. Have fun, good luck. They're gonna win. I can't find the line, money line. Because I'm gonna put some money on it. Yeah, I mean, Kentucky just boat raced Florida too last week. I'm like, oh my god. Not that Florida's worth two shits, but it's Florida. It's SCC, it's the SEC football, you know.
Graham:Hey, that just makes that moneyline bet a little juicier.
Scott:Right? God. So uh Kellen and I, and my dad and Kellen's little girl, we're going to see the old dominion game on Thursday night. They're actually on ESPN. For those of you that don't have YouTube TV, you can probably watch it if you do. Get Sling $4.99. I'm just wearing out Sling $4.99. Thank God for the YouTube $20 credit that they make you fucking work for. I mean, right on cue. I mean, thanks, YouTube TV. Let's don't just credit everybody that pays you. That would be, you know, the normal thing to do. Let's make you go work for it and go on your you know, login information.
Graham:Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the best part, I was telling you earlier, uh, before we started, I love how last night for Monday night football, so you know how they have the main broadcast on ESPN on ESPN too. There, it's the Manning Cast. Manning cast usually has four guests. Oh, who was one of the four guests that I told you about that was on Monday Night Football with them? I forgot who you told me. Uh how about Bob Iger, who's the president of Disney. That's right. Hey Bob, what the bleep are you doing here?
Scott:You know, Kristen said something today and it made me think.
Graham:Oh, let's hear this.
Scott:So we all know that Disney, Hulu and ESPN are all and ABC are together, right?
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:YouTube TV with this ESPN contract war is losing subscribers, and they're all going to what? Hulu. Hulu TV.
Graham:Yeah, but the thing is that the people that watch football still have to get Sunday ticket.
Scott:You do not have to be subscribed to use.
Graham:No, you don't, but yes, I know, but it's cheaper. It's significantly cheaper, but also so what? They're just not good. I mean, there's nothing that anyone can do now about it. So are they just the like you can't not have ESP?
Scott:I mean, I just that's yeah, uh I know. I uh we're we're two weeks into this. We've missed two Saturdays of college football, two Mondays, Monday night football.
Graham:And besides, you Hulu TV is not as good as YouTube TV anyway. You can't multicast, you can't I mean, uh Yeah, I know.
Scott:I love dude, I was the biggest hater, not hater, but I just had second thoughts about going to YouTube TV, and then Billy gave it to me, his password and shit when we moved, and I could actually watch when we the first night we moved in the house, and I was like, dude, this is awesome. Not only that, I can watch it, and you told me way before. I know I'm not watching it. Okay, thank you. I'm like, I've been no, no, no, no, I'm not. But then I'm like, holy shit, I can watch it on my phone, I can watch it on my iPad. Oh, I have a TV in my office at work, I can put it on my TV in my office.
Graham:Bingo.
Scott:And then they take it away from me. You know, I watch college game day on Saturday mornings when I'm at work. I might watch, no, that's background noise, but I love McAfee and the field goal kick and shit. Yeah. So the first weekend didn't do it. Last weekend, I bought the sling thing for 24 hours. Thank God to watch the Carolina game, and then I was like, oh shit, I can log in here at work and watch this. But dude, it's like, come on, man, for sports nerds like me and you and the rest of the god dang world.
Graham:You've already spent the $20 credit already. 100%.
Scott:100%. And before we even started tonight, you know, I sent you something on Instagram about the NFL thing for Monday Night Football last night. Somebody posted, and I was skeptical, and then I started reading the comments, and everybody's like, it worked, it worked, it worked. So I'll throw that out there on Instagram on our on our page. Just, I mean, yeah, wonder people watching games.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:I mean, hopefully they're better than last night's game.
Graham:Hopefully. Yeah. The the funny thing is, is like it kind of reminded me, you know, I was always a big proponent of like back in the day, you know, those the grudge match between Pittsburgh and Baltimore, those defensive games. But it's just like it didn't have that same feel. There was just so much more like shitty offense.
Scott:Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, both teams have decent defenses, but it was shitty offense. Yeah. Where when it was Steelers Ravens, it was black and blue. I mean, it was good offenses, yeah, amazing defenses.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:Last night, I mean, Jordan Love, like, who the fuck are you? I mean, when are we done with this guy? Uh uh I mean, when? I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I hate to say this, and I said it in the our fantasy thread last night. Is the best quarterback in the NFC North, does he paint his fingernails?
Graham:All right, first of all, let's you're gonna go to Jared Goff. But you weren't Caleb's biggest fan. I mean, you're still not his biggest fan, but I'm gonna say it.
Scott:No, I actually am now. Now, okay, okay. TP sent me an Instagram thing tonight about an hour ago, and it was pretty amazing. I'm gonna find it right now. Uh I'll send it to you.
Graham:Uh shout out TP.
Scott:Yeah, it was pretty good.
Graham:Everyone can everyone's mind can be changed.
Scott:Yes, dude. And it's shit like this that I like. Caleb Williams brings his sixth grade teacher to the game this weekend. Wow. Dude post taught Caleb Williams in the sixth grade. He told me then he'd be an NFL quarterback. I told him I'd be there to see him. He kept his promise. Him and my wife orchestrated my weekend in Chicago to come see him play. Educators, our work really matters. And you know, my wife is a teacher.
Announcer:Yeah.
Scott:Hits home. You know, a couple put a couple dudes in the NFL my wife has taught.
Announcer:Yeah.
Scott:Cam Chancellor. But not pretty big bomb.
Graham:I'm just messing with you, Kristen.
Scott:What's his name? Receiver for the Bills? Uh Shakir.
Graham:Oh, yeah, Khalir Shakir.
Scott:Yeah. Yeah. But you know, I thought that was pretty cool. I thought it was awesome. I was like, damn TP. I was like, I love it. Just became a fan of his now. And you know, everybody, how much shit have I talked on to guy?
Graham:Every episode.
Scott:I mean, I mean, good for him. Good for him. But anyhow, let's couple crazy games early Sunday. I mean, the Colts were in a dogfight and winning overtime. I mean, Jonathan Taylor, uh, okay. Uh if they gave the MVP to running backs, there you go.
Graham:But they don't. That's why they give him the offensive player of the year.
Scott:Dude is insane what he's doing right now. Yeah. Yeah.
Graham:I don't disagree.
Scott:Texans, Jaguars. And I know you weren't watching it, you were bitter betty because you were losing all your bets and shit.
Graham:But when you have Buffalo in Miami, I know, Graham. Buffalo's playing like, you know, like they were a good team. Miami's been playing like shit. And then I don't know. It's just for some reason, certain teams. It's not, it's like it's not a play down of the competition. It's just there must be like a an aura, a juju, or something down in Miami, but Buffalo just can't. Dude, it's kind of like you know, the Patriots of Miami. When the Patriots would come down to Miami, their record wasn't as good. Like it's just I I don't, you know, Miami could have seriously inferior teams and still pull it out. And to have a couple bets just on the like I had one bet we're just on the regular nine nine and a half spread, but I had like four teasers. You're telling me I can't take Buffalo minus three and a half and get a dub?
Scott:What? The best thing about that entire game. Well, not the best thing. Dude, they didn't score a point in the first half. The Bills.
Graham:Well, when you throw two interceptions in the end zone, that doesn't help.
Scott:But dude, McDaniels after the game driving by that buffalo bar, that was awesome.
Graham:I just thought in the press conference. Yeah.
Scott:I'm not a fan of McDaniels, but that was that was pretty epic. I mean, if your boy was a head coach and you were on my staff, you don't think me and you would be driving by bars of other teams when we got that dub?
Graham:How petty are you?
Scott:Dude, you and I would probably last two weeks.
Graham:Oh, 100%. Dude, look, he's on his victory lap right now. McDaniels. He's not getting fired. Not during the season.
Scott:He's not getting fired after the season.
Graham:Wow. That's a hot take right there.
Scott:He's not.
Graham:Wow.
Scott:Wow. Wow. Not getting fired.
Graham:I did not expect you to say that.
Scott:I didn't. I mean, but I believe it.
Graham:Hey, we were talking the other day, and the funny thing is, like, McDaniels, surprisingly, I don't know why it didn't come into my mind, but I mean, we've been talking about how Dable has been on the hot seat. I mean, how he wasn't fired coming off the plane back home from Denver when he gave up that lead, that was just surprising. But that being said, there's always turnover for coaches in the NFL. Like it happens every year. Some years there's a lot more than others, and some years there's not. But we were talking about it, and it's just like, how many NFL coaches are getting fired this year? Whether it be, and I'm saying in totality, between the regular season, I mean, I would think Dable's gonna be the only one, but by the end of the year, this could be a year where there's not that many. I mean, possibly two seasons.
Scott:There's gonna be there's gonna be coaching changes. What's the difference? Uh being fired and mutually splitting up are different things.
Graham:Uh fair.
Scott:Fair Pete Carroll, Pete Carroll's one and out. Yeah. He's out. He ain't coaching the Raiders next year.
Graham:Yeah, I didn't think about it.
Scott:He's out. Mike Tomlin, if y'all don't go deep in the playoffs, he's out. Not getting fired. The Steelers are never gonna fire him. I mean, I think it's gonna be a mutual I I uh to be honest, bro.
Graham:After this year, I think they would, but as we talked about it, dude.
Scott:Remember, remember the Steelers. They take pride in, oh, we've only had three head coaches in 87,000 years. They're not firing him.
Graham:Hey, as they say, it's a new dawn, it's a new day, brother. It times are changing.
Scott:And how did that how's that new dawn and new way of Pittsburgh go this year with all these free agent signings? Yeah, well, hey, look, this was walking away, and the Giants are just gonna go up to him and say, hey, here's a blank paycheck.
Graham:Yeah. So here's an idea. Trade him to him. At least get something for it. He's under contract for two years. Why would they let him out? Why would they not get something for him?
Scott:If he's under contract and and well, if they mutually agree, contracts toast. Yeah, but I'm just saying, like if Peyton, remember, Peyton retired from the Saints. That's why they had to trade him to the Broncos.
Graham:I get that, but I'm just saying, like, if if you could get something, get it. You know what I mean? Like, you're telling me the Giants wouldn't give a second, a third? I'll take a third. I'll take anything, to be honest. I'll take an extra player. I mean, we got listening to all the beat writers yesterday. We're the second oldest team in the league right now. The positions that we have to replace, we can't do in a year. I mean, I was thinking about it last night as I'm on my bed, you know, scrolling through YouTube and just listening to the people that I listen to, the beat reporters and stuff, and it's finally happened. You know, uh all my friends that are, you know, have their other teams, aka, you know, like the Browns fans, you know, because growing up in Pittsburgh, or growing up in Erie where I grew up, 45% Steelers, 45% Browns, and you got those 10% Buffalo Bills fans, right? A lot of a lot of my friends, like they're Browns fans, and I mean you gotta feel bad for them, but it's just like I can honestly say, after this year, I mean, I don't think after what was shown last or two nights ago on that Sunday night game, and based off the schedule, I don't see us being over 500. I don't see us making the playoffs because you have to win the division and we're we're not making a wild card. And to be honest, I'm I'm at the point now where I'm ready to rip the band-aid. And all that being said, next year will be the first time since I've like truly started rooting for the Steelers that I'm gonna watch a team that's not gonna be good. And by not good, I mean I'm gonna see a five-and-12 team. I or a six and eleven team. Like I'm serious.
Scott:And before we even I mean, before we even get into the game, something that you and I have talked about on this show numerous times was the decision in the offseason, dude. I hated your organization for fucking bringing Aaron Rodgers in. It was uh what happened last year? Y'all started off hot. Who was your quarterback? Fields. Then Russell Wilson came in. He had a great game on Monday Night Football when you were there having a blast, and everybody's praising Russell Wilson. What happened at the end of the year? He looked old. Yeah. What happened at the beginning of this season? Y'all started off hot. The Ravens are one and four. The Ravens are still the betting favorite to win the god dang AFC North. Rogers looks old. You don't have a number two receiver, you have 37 tight ends. You didn't try to. I know you went after what's his nuts. Uh and he chose yeah, he chose to go down to or to go to Seattle. Everybody th I mean, myself included, I hated Roman Wilson from as a Michigan fan going to Pittsburgh, but I was happy for you. I'm like, this dude's gonna be a changer. Missed his first year. What's he done this year, dude? Why is he not playing more?
Graham:Because he's the same as Calvin Austin.
Scott:No, he's not. He's younger.
Graham:Well, I Calvin Austin's not old. This is Calvin Austin's fourth year. Yeah, this is Roman Wilson's second. I'm just I I I I don't disagree with you.
Scott:I'm just saying, like I mean, Johnny Smith, you got him in that big trade, right? What did he do the other night? I what did he do for the Dolphins last year? He made uh he made us go deep in the fantasy playoffs.
Graham:Yeah. Well, they're not play they should be playing him as a number two wide receiver, not a tight end. I uh it's it's a con look, we're at the point, and a lot of people are saying it, and not that I want to compare it to Andy Reed, but just because the message is good, if you have the same message for 19 years in a row, it doesn't matter if you're you know if you're a player's coach, like I get that, but sometimes you need new you need a new message, right? Andy Reid went to four straight NFC championships, and then what happened?
Scott:Boo-ba! They shit candy.
Graham:Right? So Which is insane. It's just like like I it's just one of those things like it's not you, it's not me, but it's just like you know, w we need to figure something out. Like the band-aid needs to get ripped off, and you know, and to your point, I'll I'll say this, you know, with Rogers, look during the off season, the quality of potential backup or quarterbacks that were on the on the market wasn't that sexy. Now I know you're gonna say because we've talked about it oh, well, Daniel Jones and and Darnold. Yeah, but Pittsburgh was not gonna pay Darnold that money.
Scott:I agree. I agree. I'm I'm not I'm not saying that. And I had never have. I mean, obviously Justin Fields is not the answer. You know.
Graham:They wanted them. They just didn't want to pay them.
Scott:Right. And now the Jets are like, but you take, you know, you throw all your eggs in a basket of a dude that's going to give you what two years tops.
Graham:They were going for it. They were.
Scott:They were.
Graham:And they it failed.
Scott:Then you drafted a guy that everybody loved in the preseason from Ohio State, Howard. Bring in old Mason Rudolph, dude. Let him start the year off and let Will Howard get some experience. That's why I always hated the Aaron Rodgers thing. Because it wasn't for the future of your team.
Graham:Yeah, but with the older, with an older team, it was when now. Like, dude, Art Rooney was like, you have to win a playoff game. Do whatever you can. You have to win a playoff game. We're not winning a playoff game with Howard, with Will Howard. It's just like, I get it. No.
Scott:But look, it's setting up the future.
Graham:Right. I hey. We made our bed. Yeah. Now we're laying in it. And it's and the thing is, like, we've gone through the schedule. Dude, there's two, maybe three wins. And those two wins are Cleveland, and we host on you're gonna love this. We host the Miami Dolphins on a Monday night in like four weeks. Uh, you know what I mean? We gotta play Baltimore twice. Look, I know division games are division games. We still we're playing Cincinnati on Sunday. We have to we have to go to Chicago, we have to go to Detroit, we host Buffalo, which team is gonna show us. I mean, it's just like I I at this point, I don't know where the hope is.
Scott:What is it last night? What did we say last night when we were going through your schedule? Nine and eight.
Graham:Yeah. Best case scenario was nine and eight. But we have to win the division to make the playoffs. Yeah. So we have to beat Baltimore at least once. We have to beat the Bengals on Sunday. We have to obviously beat Cleveland. We got, I mean, like, there's games that we have to win. And the only time, I don't say the only time, but a lot of the games that we've won, especially against the better teams that we've played, we've only won because we've had multiple turnovers. If we don't create turnovers, else.
Scott:And like I said last week on the podcast, I really was not sweating the Steelers game because the Colts turned it over five times last week, and y'all won by seven.
Graham:Well, Pittsburgh did give it up, gave up stuff towards the end because they won.
Scott:But that was the only thing I was sweating the Charter Steelers game was can Herbert get out alive?
Announcer:Yeah.
Scott:And you know, the first quarter of when he banged up his knee, I'm like, Jesus Christ, can he finish the game? And like we were talking the other night, if you looked at if you remember the game, he didn't get hit at all in the second half. Greg Roman, Greg Roman, the offensive coordinator that I've bashed forever since he's been a charger, Rob, Trevor. We were like, he made the changes, dude.
Graham:Well, I mean, he has the experience against us.
Scott:Vidal, I mean, he ran all over you guys. Gassed you. He was over a hundred yards until the end of the game when they were just running it and he lost, lost his gas.
Graham:Gash is what Jonathan Taylor does. Not a hundred yards is not gashing, all right?
Scott:Like it is when the Pittsburgh Steelers just held Jonathan Taylor to what the week before.
Graham:Yeah, no, I mean, I don't disagree. I I mean, look, and I mean, let's just talk about the game. I mean it we're at this point, and you made a good point. We're up 3-0. We have the ball on your side of the field.
Scott:If Rogers It was 0-0 at that at that point.
Graham:Oh, it was still zero throw. Yeah, well, because that's because we got the field goal because of that. Yeah, sorry about that. If Rogers hits DK, who had three fucking steps.
Scott:It's a different game.
Graham:It's a completely different game. Like, and uh look, I'll give you guys credit too. There was a couple pass like Gatson dropped a couple passes.
Scott:Yeah, on our first drive, it was like, dude.
Graham:You know, I mean, there was a couple uh even Williams dropped a pass or two. So I mean, like, you guys could have, I mean, it could have been more both sides, but it's just like there were some passes. It's just like when your offense is not clicking, you can't afford to draw passes. And then on top of it, when Rogers is making some throws, like we're just used to all right, if he lost the step, okay, that's one thing, but Rogers' whole thing has been his accuracy.
Scott:And not only not only accuracy, it's how fast he gets the ball out. Right. And he didn't.
Graham:There were three throws that I can remember perfectly that he just oh like there's overshot, and it's just like you'd have to matumbo and jump in the air to catch a couple of those passes.
Scott:The first pick we had, it was like, uh, where was that going?
Graham:Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying.
Scott:Ten feet over his head.
Graham:So I it's just uh it's like watching that game, it's like yeah, all phases have to work together, but Pittsburgh always says, don't make mistakes, the defense will have us, just get us, plot us down the field, and we got a chance. Rogers didn't do that, like if he would have made the throws that he needed he needed to make, that game would have been a I mean, it would have been a hell of a lot closer than what it was.
Scott:The safety when Matt got him, that play changed Rogers for the rest of the game. Oh, yeah, he he was so hesitant the rest of the game. Yeah. And he's lucky he fell on that ball or to Tuddy.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:I mean, the ball came out.
Graham:But uh the fact that he ran that way, like it was I don't know.
Scott:I mean, but before we continue, I gotta say, Rob, our boy that we talk about on the show all the time. Rob went to the game and sat in a suite. Let's go, Rob. And he was so excited. I mean, this this is my boy back in San Diego days at Qualcomm. I mean, I sat next to him for years and years and years. This was the first game he's ever been able to over-serve himself, right? Have some beverages because he always drove home with his son and he couldn't drink. Well, we're texting before the game, Trevor, him, and I, and I'm like, dude, you have to FaceTime me for the national anthem. And Trevor's like, Yeah, dad, FaceTime both of us. And Trevor's like, dude, get Kellen on. And it was so sick, dude. Like, we're FaceTiming Rob's got pointing at the field. It was awesome, right? So Kellen even looks at me. I was so fired up. Just, you know, my I always tell you, tell everybody, my favorite thing of an NFL game is the national anthem. Love it. Yeah, love it. Especially a night game when the whole world's watching you. And then a half hour later, Rob sends Trevor and I a picture, gets to meet Dan Fowles. Okay. After the game, he texts Trevor and I, and this is Rob, I'm sorry, we're gonna start at the end and then we're gonna rewind. Okay. He goes, Epic night. Embarrassed the Steelers on primetime, pissed off my brother-in-law, got to dance in front of him two times, and got my picture with Dan Fowles, my favorite all-time charger. I was like, love it, love it. For Rob.
Graham:Hey, Rob, I'm glad you had a great time. I'm glad I wasn't at that game because I was planning on it. And hey, I'm glad that's probably the greatest game you've ever been to because we know you haven't been to many playoff wins, so you know, I'm just uh No, we've been to a lot of playoff games. No, playoff wins.
Scott:No, we have back in the day. But uh the best part about Rob was we've talked about what's that little kid's name that used to take his shirt off. They call you King something, right? I mean, yeah. Anyhow, Rob texts Trevor and I he's like, oh my god, the camera was just here. They had our suite all in the jumbotron. And I'm like, Rob, if they do it again, you gotta take your shirt off like that little kid and start waving it in the air. And he goes, Give me three seconds, I got you. You saw the video. Epic, dude. Epic. It was awesome. But it was a fun night.
Graham:Uh I miss seeing that kid.
Scott:Yeah.
Graham:The national media doesn't see that because it's like not having season tickets anymore. It's just like, I mean, I was so bummed that I didn't get to go to this game. And then when I watched it, I was like, there's no way. Especially with the fact with Rob in the in the suite, whether or not there may or may not have been room for me to join them. I'm kind of glad that I wasn't there. But it's just like, it's not for me to drive back, it would, it's it's just it's not fun because I'm not going with anybody. You know what I mean? It's just like I don't want to watch the game by myself, and then especially to have that outcome, like I would have been so pissed. So pissed. And especially Rob probably didn't stick around that much later afterwards, anyway. So it's like, yeah. Look, things happen for a reason. It is what it is. And Rob, congratulations. I'm glad this is probably the highlight of your year, especially being a Chargers fan.
Scott:So whoa, whoa, whoa. Kudos. Why do you gotta throw shade? I I mean, Rob was a fan back in '94 when we beat the Steelers in the AFC Championship game to go to the Super Bowl and then get boat raced by the Niners.
Graham:I mean, Rob was saved us the embarrassment. Thank you.
Scott:Rob was there. But dude, everybody keeps talking about how old Roderick is and this and that. Let's give credit where credit's due. Jesse Beaker and our played well.
Graham:Uh uh.
Scott:Dude, our defense, you guys were hold on. Week one through three, Chargers had the number one defense in the league. Then all of a sudden, bad timing happens, all goes down. You know, not blaming anything. We go to the Giants, we're three and oh. All of a sudden, what's his name? Jackson Dark gets inserted as a starting quarterback. We get beat, then we get beat by the Redskins, then we barely beat the Dolphins, get boat raced by the Colts, won three games in a row. Week eight, nine, and ten. And week eight, nine and ten, back to the number one defense in the league. The weeks before that, after week one, two, and three, we were 32 out of 32. Awful. But with players out, dude. Nico Reed, that pass he swatted, was sick.
Announcer:Yeah.
Scott:I mean, as a football fan, no matter what team you're a fan of, you gotta give credit where credit's due. That was sick.
Graham:Facts, of course.
Scott:Denzel Perryman. Are you kidding me? Some of the play, some of the hits he had. And then the other, and TP said it before the game, and god dang it, I wish I was somewhere I could bet it. He goes, I'm telling you right now, Bud Dupree's gonna have a game. And so is Jackson, the cornerback we signed from you guys to the left and free agency. What happens? Bud Depree, huge sack on third down. Jackson, pick. I was like, son of a bitch. And the best thing I could the way I describe this game is dude, the Chargers Steelered the Steelers. Yeah. The game that we played reminds me of a Steelers game. Outphysicaled the other team, ran the ball well, didn't turn it over, didn't make mistakes. And what more can you say? I mean, you guys were oh for nine on third down. You had two you you had two third down conversions.
Graham:Yeah. And what, like five three and outs?
Scott:More than that. Yeah. It was crazy. But I mean, I don't know. Yeah, Steelers have three points, four first downs, and 106 total yards with five minutes remaining in the third quarter. They're 0 for 9 on third down. And the Chargers D, they've allowed one touchdown in nine quarters, and that touchdown was Roman Wilson, and that was garbage time. I mean, when have you seen a Pittsburgh Steeler punt returner fumble a ball?
Graham:It's been a while. I mean, you saw how like this dude, I've never seen a ball they talked about it on the Did you see it? It wasn't spiraling in a circle, it was spiraling sideways.
Scott:Like, what in the shit is going on?
Graham:I'm like, yeah, exactly. I'm like, what is that?
Scott:But I mean, obviously, you're my best friend on the planet. I don't want to fucking you know, you're happy. I know you're happy for me. I'd be happy if you won. You know, we talked before the game, and you're like, good luck, and yada yada yada.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:But I really didn't stress that game. And it's weird. It's weird as a charger fan to not stress the game. Even with seven fifty-five thousand Steelers fans there waving their towels.
Graham:That's what makes it more depressing. Like it was a home game for us.
Scott:They were gone. They and the funny they said the funny thing was Chargers social media, they put it on the whatever they call it, the big Jumbotron or whatever.
Announcer:Yeah.
Scott:They were showing videos of every exit with 10 minutes left in the fourth quarter of all y'all leaving.
Graham:Well, they're making room for all those Charger fans somewhere. I look, it's I get it. It it I mean, it is what it is. I mean, to be honest, I this is all off the top of my head, I don't know specifics. We don't play you guys that often. I mean, it's not like you know, we're the opposite in the NFC and the conference that you only play like once every four years, but like the last win that I can remember was the game that we were supposed to go to and you didn't give me tickets for when you moved when you moved away and when it was at Stub Hub Arena and Duck Hodges came in and took care of business.
Scott:That was the last time you won last year.
Graham:Oh, sorry, yeah.
Scott:When Herbert when Allen and Heineke got yeah, but uh you're right.
Graham:All right. Okay, but before that, it's just like the times that I've seen them in SoFi losses.
Scott:Well, that's twice. They've only been in SoFi twice.
Graham:Yeah, so the home opener when there was like 34 points scored in the fourth quarter that game.
Scott:And Rob's brother-in-law pissed his pants.
Graham:Yeah. In the car after it was over because it was blackout drunk. Let's get more specific with that.
Scott:But yeah, I it's just And that was the day I met Andy.
Graham:It was the day.
Scott:Or not day, weekend. Weekend or whatever.
Graham:Yeah. I just I mean, I thought it was gonna be a good game. I thought it would be close. I thought you guys would probably win, but I the there was nothing about what happened in that game I thought was gonna happen. Like I really didn't. The fact that our offense literally couldn't do anything was just it was depressing. But the worst part about it was with our offense not doing anything, it wasn't like you blown us out. I mean that amazing throw that Herbert made to McConkie and he had that 70-yard play.
Scott:I still don't understand how he fit that ball in.
Graham:I you know I mean, it was just like we were still in it. Like, it would have been more gut-wrenching if we could have made a couple of plays and somehow snuck that out. You go, I mean, you and Rob would have been on high alert. You know, something could have happened.
Scott:When y'all went for it on fourth down, we had to and well, in the red zone, like on the 10 or whatever. I'm like, I'm like, oh shit. If they score right here, this is a game.
Graham:Yeah. And my dad's like, Well, why are they going for it? I was like, Dad, they the second half, they haven't even been on this side of the field. Yeah, had to. Like, that was only the second time we were in the red zone. Of course they like three points does absolute it's like at that point, what was it, 15 to 3? Like, there was no point, like, what what is getting three points? I mean, gonna matter. Like we always say, hey, take the points, take the points. Yeah, in the first and second quarter or in the third, like we're getting shellacked. What's three gonna do here? Like, we have to do something. And it's just like Rogers just threw it up for DK to make a play, and it wasn't like he was double covered, but the safety over the top was kind of close to side, but he didn't really put it in a spot to give him a chance. Like, DK would have had to have made the most unbelievable of catch. Yeah, I mean, the cornerback didn't turn around, so I was kind of hoping we could get a lucky PI call, but that didn't happen. And I'm just like, you know, it it got to a point where it's just the writing was on the wall, and it's not like I'm gonna change the channel. I mean, it's just it is what it is. Yeah, it's it's you know, and I'm like, uh, but the but I will say this, you know, dad uh towards the end, dad was like, he's like, oh, he's like, I bet you Scott's gonna talk a lot of shit after this game's over. And I was just like, yes and no. And he's like, What do you mean, yes and no? I was like, Dad, there's just certain types of game. I'm like, I kind of like the Chargers. I mean, look, I was a seating tick holder. I'm like, I don't have a problem. But also the thing is like, yeah, we jab ourselves like we're boys. Like, that's what we do, but like there's a difference between throwing shots when the game's close. Yeah, and a shellacking, there's no like what said, like we got our ass kicked. Yeah, I can't come back from that. Like, I can't throw a jab back.
Scott:And I'm not gonna blast you during the game. You're not gonna blast me.
Graham:Yeah, like it's it's not gonna happen.
Scott:Other people I know do that, and I hate it. Yeah, like you know, if my team's not gonna win, I want my boys' team to win. Yeah, so it's unless you're a Patriots or Chiefs or Broncos fan.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:I mean, uh it's a game. I have nothing to do with it. I still go to work tomorrow, I still take a shit, it still stinks, you know. It is what it is.
Graham:But exactly, exactly. I I I don't know.
Scott:To go on to something else, you know, going into the game, Keenan needed two receptions to pass Antonio Gates as the all-time Chargers reception leader. Dude, he didn't catch a ball until the second half.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:And I'm going, dude, and Gates is there at the game. The game's over, basically. I don't know if it was before the two-minute warning or after the two-minute warning, but we're like, and Keenan, they said Keenan said everybody on the team, and Harbaugh is going, we're gonna get it to you, we're gonna get it to you, we're gonna get it to you.
Announcer:Yeah.
Scott:The game's out of hand. You know, we're not gonna pass it again. We're gonna run it, y'all are out of timeouts. And Keenan said he went to Harbaugh and said, How about a little pop pass? It's a guaranteed catch. We don't have to jeopardize a pick. Harbaugh said he radioed it up to Roman, Dundee, and called Keenan a genius. Whatever. Call it whatever it is. Is it the kind of play I wanted to see him break the record with? No. But it's not like it's the last game of his career. He's gonna break it eventually. Why not? Where is there a better time to do it than on national television? Gates in attendance.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:You don't want to do it next week in Jacksonville. Let's get it done. No, I guess and if you saw this, is what I loved about it. I mean, we did an emergency podcast on Keenan. Yeah, okay. Your boy saying boys to men. Keenan Keenan is one of my all-time favorite players. And to see the emotion on the Chargers, his teammates, and how excited they were for him, it was awesome. It was amazing. And pumped for him. I mean, he's he was a he got drafted in 2013. His first reception in the NFL, dude, who I think it was week two, home opener at Philly. Malcolm Floyd went down, insert Keenan, and it was off and running from then on. But it was sick, it was cool, it was a good game. Chargers need this god dang bye week. We need to beat Jacksonville, dude, this week, and the bye week is huge. We need it. We're not getting all back, we're not getting Slater back. Yeah, we just gotta keep Herbert standing up, and this defense has got to keep doing what it's doing. Yeah. And Derwin was a non-factor, dude. That's what was crazy. Yeah, they didn't call his name a lot.
Graham:I mean, yeah, because our offense didn't do shit. Like, they're not completing passes for him to make a tackle.
Scott:Yeah. Well, I just I don't even know who we who he was playing or who he was guarding. I mean, let's look. I'm looking at the stack stats right now. Um I mean he had no sacks and he had three tackles.
Graham:Yeah. I mean, you're pretty much double in DK most of the game. I mean, it's just it wasn't we it's not one of those things where it's just like, oh, you know, you know how sometimes teams could be like it's just not our week?
Scott:Yeah.
Graham:That I I don't think I can say that. I think it's more than it's just it wasn't our week. I I don't know. I I just it's look, it's been twenty years since Pittsburgh has not been good. And even before that, they weren't like, you know, that well no.
Scott:Yeah, they always competed.
Graham:Well, they drafted Ben in 04. So I mean, it's been over 20, like, we've been a playoff contending team for 20 years. A. I can't not be happy about that. I've only been watching football for 20 years, so it's just like now it's fine, like it's look, Dynasties. I'm not calling Pittsburgh Dynasty, but I'm just saying, like, progressions go throughout. I mean, look, the Patriots were nothing before Tom Brady was there. They were shit for the next couple of years. Now they're turning it around. It's just like teams can only be so good for so long. I mean, it's not like I mean, how lucky are the Packers? You went from, you know what I mean? It's just like you went from Favre to Rogers, and now you're with Love, who, I mean, love's not terrible. Like, he's been debatable. I know, I know you feel a certain way, but like Love's still taking him to the playoffs. He's won games for them.
Scott:I I Hey, it's not only the Packers. You guys are lucky too. No, for sure. The Chargers. Breeze, only Ben. Herbert.
Graham:Yeah, I'm just yeah, no, exactly.
Scott:I it's just I mean, how many quarterbacks have the Browns drafted in that time frame? Well, how many quarterbacks have the Dolphins drafted? Well, Raiders or Raiders.
Graham:They've had chances, they just take the wrong guy. And as I mean, you should be sending them a thank you gift every year.
Scott:Every Christmas, I should be sending them a Christmas card.
Graham:Yeah. Herbert should have gone to Miami. Just saying. Thank you, baby Jesus. So, I mean, look, things happen for a reason. It is what it is. It's just, you know, life goes on, and now it's, you know, I mean, well, look, Pittsburgh won't be ever as bad as the Browns. I mean, look, the Browns keep losing, and they still don't want to give Shador a chance. I mean, I I who knows what's going on over there. I it makes no sense. I don't know. I just none. I it is what it is.
Scott:Um speaking of making no sense. Uh Lions boat race, the Redskins. I mean, it makes sense. I mean, I get it with Daniels out, but what the hell is going on in Washington? You got homeboy getting ejected for throwing a punch.
Announcer:That was so weird.
Scott:It's like, yeah, wow.
Graham:They I mean, look, Seattle is that team, you know, they're good. And also, and look, as I said, next man up doesn't count when your number one, when your top players get hurt.
Scott:Like 100%.
Graham:It's it's tough. It's tough.
Scott:So something I don't know why, you know, we've been talking about this forever. I don't know why my love for the Patriots start before this year. And after watching Seattle like the first four or five weeks of the year, I've been telling you, Seattle's the best team in football.
Announcer:Yeah.
Scott:It's and you can argue Rams too. I mean, the Rams are just offense, defense. Like, I mean, could googly moogly. And the Devon Adams and Devontae Adams to that team. Wow.
Graham:With Chiron, the defense is stepping up. Look at that.
Scott:Puka's healthy.
Graham:Yeah. It's the game of the week. Literally. It should be flexed. I know. I think it's a regular four o'clock game.
Scott:Oh, Fox probably protected it. Because each CBS and Fox can protect one game.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:Yeah. So I mean that's a game of the week. It's gonna be a game, dude.
Graham:Oh, a hundred percent. And it's also their first meeting, too.
Scott:Okay. I mean, think about it. If the Eagles don't block a field goal, the Rams beat them in Philly.
Graham:Yeah. Dude, the Rams almost had their number last year in the playoffs.
Scott:Yeah. And if the Colts, if the they should have beaten the Colts. Or no, because they beat the Rams did beat the Colts.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:Because that's when the moron dropped the ball before the end zone.
Announcer:Yeah.
Scott:Are the Rams who the Rams lost to? They have two losses, right? Yes. Who the hell have they lost to? This is making me question everything right now.
Graham:I got you right here. They lost to oh, that was preseason. I'm like, they lost to the Browns? Uh the Eagles and uh the Niners. The first time they played the Niners in overtime.
Scott:That's right. Yeah. And the Seahawks have two losses, week one against the Niners. Yeah.
Graham:And lost to the almost should have lost to us, too.
Scott:And lost to Tampa.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:Dude, they beat y'all 31 to 17. Yeah, but if the Is that when Warren or not Warren, uh Caleb Johnson misplayed the kick. Yeah.
Graham:Yeah. I mean, look, dude, the Rams next couple of games are no slouches. They're they host the Seahawks, then they host the Bucks, at the Panthers, at the Cardinals, host the Lions, at the Seahawks, at the Falcons, and then finish at home against the Cardinals.
Scott:That's a that's I ain't mad at that.
Graham:That's not an easy sketch.
Scott:No. So we got we got Tampa at the Bills this week. Yeah. Yeah. And I need Patriots doing that work on the Jets on Thursday night to get your boy over that eight and a half win total.
Graham:May's going down, the season's over. That you laughed at.
Scott:Laughing. I already have a real of course you do. Of course, dude. What do you think about dude? The Panthers losing to the Saints. Thanks, Survivor picks. I mean, dude. Yeah.
Graham:And I can't go one up on Andy on our Jets Saints bet.
Scott:Dude, we got Chief Broncos too this week. Yeah. And it's weird. I'm rooting for the Broncos.
Announcer:Yeah.
Graham:I mean. I have to. I mean, is there a worse 8-2 team?
Scott:You know my feelings, dude.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:I mean, I will give them credit. Their two losses were last-second field goals. But like you said earlier, uh, remember what they did against the Giants when they dude missed 37 field goals?
Announcer:Yeah.
Scott:I just Bo Nix is not him.
Announcer:Yeah, I don't know what's going on with that. He figures it out.
Graham:Yeah, I mean well, dude, like, you know, you didn't uh I'll give you a little, I'll fluff you up so you can say you're Herbert stat. If Herbert played on the Broncos, they'd be undefeated right now.
Scott:Not a question in my mind. Not even debatable. So, I mean look what Herbert's doing, dude. Obviously, I'm a Target fan. Look what he's doing with his all-pro left tackle out and his all-pro right tackle out. Next man up. Dude, put it this way: he's on pace, like I was talking to you earlier, for over 4,600 yards. No quarterback in the history of the NFL has ever had 4,600 passing yards, 32 passing touchdowns, and 450 rushing yards. What? If he does it with this offensive line, can people stop throwing shade at my guy, dude? I don't know. Just because he's hanging out with this hot chick with huge hammers. Like people blast him. What's her name? Beer, Madison Beer. Beers. Whatever. Her last name, Beer. I like beer. I like boobies. I like the motorboat. You motorboating son of a beep. Uh clip it. I mean, I mean, people blast him. Oh, he lost a playoff game because he was down 27 to nothing. Like I always say, how many turnovers did my guy have? We got boat raced by the Texans last year. We have one wide receiver, Ladd McConkie. He's getting double covered the entire game and still put up 197 yards. Give my guy some protection, please. But it's crazy, dude. I mean the NFC is a power. The AFC it's wide open. I think. Yeah, I agree. I mean.
Graham:Any given Sunday, bro.
Scott:I think it's wide open, the AFC.
Graham:Whoever shows up.
Scott:I mean, we were, dude, you and I were, I don't even know how we recorded an episode after two weeks with the Packers. We were crowning them. We were trying to bet them for Super Bowl winners, and I forget what I the stat was. They've scored like 20 points the last two weeks. Yeah, that's against the Panthers and then obviously the Eagles. But I don't know. I don't know. I just, dude. Rams and the Seahawks is gonna be epic this week. It's gonna be good. Broncos Chiefs is gonna be good.
Announcer:Yeah.
Scott:But I don't know. Graham. It's been a fun week on to week 11. Let's go. It's sad. Because it's week 11.
Announcer:Yeah, I know, right? Getting close to the end.
Scott:Thanksgiving's a couple weeks away, and you know, then it's Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, all that other stuff. I mean, I gotta give respect where respect's due.
Graham:Yo, you just you do. You just caught me off guard with that.
Scott:Speaking of catching you off guard, I wish you could have seen your face when I did the motorboat and Madison Beer. I mean, come on, girl. Oh, dude. It's getting close. Something I meant I put in my brain that I wanted to bring up. Dude, the last two games we played at Tennessee. Okay. My girl was on the sideline. Amanda.
Announcer:Oh my God.
Scott:And this week, Sunday night football, my other girl was on the sideline. Let's get it started. Let's get it started. Graham, get us out of here. Love you. Before we go, if anybody's listening at an hour and five minutes, we know Andy will listen. We know TP will be there. How about that prank we played on you last night?
Graham:Oh, shut the front door.
Scott:Was that any good?
Graham:Yeah, but epic. For someone, for someone that always claims that he's gonna blow up the league. You said it first this year. Yeah. Well, I also knew it was coming. I mean, I didn't know until like right at the end that the joke was on, but Tom confessed? Yeah, at the end. Like right before right before the end. Yeah, yeah.
Scott:What?
Graham:I told you this.
Scott:Oh, dude, I'm blasting Tom.
Graham:I'm blasting Tom. I've Lee. I've known Tom since ninth grade. Just got taken away.
Scott:I'm blasting him.
Graham:Oh, dude. Well, look, I'm talking to him and I'm like, how are you starting this shit right now? I'm like, you know, these idiots in our fucking league are, you know, get can be they can't deal with this bullshit. They're always talking about this and talking about that. I was like, they complain about the dumbest shit. I was like, the pe it's like you can't stir the pot with people that don't know the rules, think things are what they're not, and it's just like they don't pay attention. Like you you can't argue about stuff that you don't pay attention to, and you're just stirring the pot. And I'm just like, well, I'm just I'm like going off on him, and he's like, he's like, I'm like, dude, I'm about to say this, this, and this. And he's like, Graham. The funny thing is, he didn't say you. He just said he's like, he's like, I got a text, and he's like, we're busting your balls. So he didn't call you out. I thought it was straight Andy, and I was like, that son of a bitch. I was like, I'm gonna, boy, I got some for him. You believe that. And so he didn't throw you under the bus at all, but it's just like I was talking to him about something because he's like, he doesn't have like he's been in the league for three years now, and he doesn't have anyone's number saved except me, you, and Andy. So he doesn't know who's making the comments. So I'm trying to tell him who certain people are, and then after I tell them, you know, that's when you guys pull that little thing of like, you know, you get eight different people to say one word that basically says we're we're messing with you. If I didn't say who the different people's numbers were, I was about to go scorched earth. I mean, I did say something eventually, but it was as you guys were basically saying it, giving yourselves up. I was I wanted to say something before you guys gave it up, and I wanted you to think I was going scorched earth, but it just was one of those things like it is what it is.
Scott:So the the best part of the whole thing is I knew you were like heated when it was going on because I text you and I'll you're stirring the pot too. I'm like, I text you and I'm and I say, dude, this is not good. Yeah, and I never get a response.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:Never get a response. I'm like talking to Andy, text him with Tom. I'm like, dude, I texted Graham and I haven't gotten a response in 25 minutes.
Graham:Oh, I was I was ready.
Scott:It was awesome, it was hilarious. Hilarious. Anyhow, hey, it was fun, it was hilarious.
Graham:Look, it is what it is, and look, if it takes 10 weeks to finally get people involved and and chit and chit chat in our fantasy group, it's about time. I mean, why play fantasy football if no one talks shit, does anything? It's just like I could play against nobody's. So look, if the joke's gonna be on me, fine. It is what it is. I'm at least glad that there was participation in a group fantasy chat amongst friends. So it is what it is.
Scott:Even Badger at Lambeau Field joined in the game last night.
Graham:Hey. Rob even chimed in too. It was it was it was nice. So Scott, not happy about the game this past Sunday night. It is what it is. Hopefully, good luck for the Chargers the rest of the season for the Steelers. Honestly, at this point, I'm kind of wishing you missed the playoffs and we can get a better draft pick. So Scott. Yeah, I know. I said it. I said it's depressing. But hey, I have a great time doing the podcast with you. And as the best homie always says, boom by goodnight, friends.
Scott:Good night, 50,000 people waving your ugly, terrible towels on Sunday night. I had to say that. I'm sorry, Graham. You're still my best friend. Good night, Melissa Stark. Thanks for being on the sideline at SoFi. I love you all. Sandy go superchargers, Sandiego, Super Chargers.
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