Bald Guys On The Bench
Bald Guys On The Bench
Fourth Quarter Chaos And Holiday Cheer
Recorded December 21st, 2025
One play can change a season—and this week, we saw dozens. We kick off with holiday vibes and then dive headfirst into the wildest swings of Week 16: Rams-Seahawks flipped from a stalemate to a shootout, punctuated by a two-point conversion that went from “dead” to “good” because one player kept playing. From there we break down how coaching, urgency, and culture are separating contenders from pretenders as the calendar turns.
Sam Darnold steadied late and fed his stars, while Puka and JSN traded haymakers in a second half that felt like January. Chicago showed what a cultural reset looks like: better line play, smarter situational decisions, and a locker room that knows who deserves the ball. The onside kick recovery and walk-off to DJ Moore weren’t accidents—they were earned moments. On the other coast, the Chargers are peaking on defense: more interceptions than passing TDs allowed, no 300-yard passers surrendered, and a clean sheet in second halves. We talk Herbert’s MVP value when “valuable” actually means irreplaceable.
College football brought its own chaos. Oklahoma blitzed Bama early, then a botched punt and pick six swung the door shut. We wrestle with the real value of bowl games in the NIL era, why coaches now have to recruit boosters, and how Oregon-Texas Tech might determine the path to the title. And we scan a tightening AFC and NFC: Bills’ window narrowing, Jaguars surging, Panthers punching above expectations, Steelers safeguarding Tomlin’s streak with better offense production and a defense stepping up to the challenge.
If you love decisive coaching calls, culture that holds under pressure, and a playoff picture changing by the quarter, you’re in the right place. Hit play, ride the chaos with us, and then tell us your bold January prediction. Subscribe, share with a friend who lives for fourth-and-short, and leave a quick review to help more fans find the show.
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Welcome to another episode of the Bald Guys on the Bench podcast with your hosts Graham Cohen and Scott Wasco.
Graham:What's up everyone? Welcome back to another episode of the Bald Guys on the Bench. Hey, it is a little holiday special right about now. Week 16. Wow, the time with flies. Scott, how are you doing, brother? Um, I don't know.
Scott:We got a fun show tonight, dude. There's just so much crazy shit that we can talk about tonight. Oh, Zay Flowers just gets into the end zone. I don't even know where to start. All I'm gonna say is we're gonna try to keep this about an hour, but you know, Graham and I like to ramble. And before we start rambling, y'all know what time it is. Grab it, crack it, let's go. And you know what? For people that are out there listening to us that follow us on Instagram, send us some pictures listening to our show, grabbing it and cracking it. Like, come on, show us what's going on when you're listening to the boys.
Graham:Hey, it's authentic. I'll say that.
Scott:Let's go, but dude. What a weekend of sports, man.
Graham:So much has gone on in these last five days that we were talking before we got on the air, and then I was just like, Can you believe so-and-so game was the best of the week? And you're like, bro, what about what happened on Thursday night? And I was like, Oh my god. And folks, I was talking about the Bears game on Saturday, but then completely forgot about the Thursday night game with the Rams. In your game, dude. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So much is going on. I mean, this is the only way we love to have it because football season is where we love it, and it makes up for the offseason. So this is the bread and butter right now.
Scott:And like I always say, sports, the greatest show on earth. People like to watch Survivor reality TV and this and that. You ain't watching the last episode of Survivor when you don't have uh any skin in the game going, oh man, on the edge of your seat. Yeah. Oh, trust me. The Bachelor. Oh, who's gonna get the rose? Oh, you know. Oh, John Smith from I was gonna get the rose. Shut up, dude. How about sack up and let's be my boy in Seattle? McDonald going for two in overtime to win the game. What makes you crazier? Oh, is is Jennifer gonna get the rose? Or or that? You know, we obviously know what side we're on, you know, tomato, tomato. Have fun if you like The Bachelor. But what has two thumbs, four thumbs, and doesn't? This guy and that guy. These guys, and hopefully all the guys and gals that listen to our show. But facts. I don't know.
Graham:It is season 50 though, starting this week.
Scott:Who? Yeah, of what show? The Bachelor or Survivor? No, Survivor. Dude, my stepmom loves Survivor. Dude, I remember the first season. You know, my boy Rudy, that won the first season? Yeah. VB, Virginia Beach. Oh my god. Dude, that's why she's into it. I guarantee it. But I didn't even know the goddamn show was still on air.
Graham:Hey, they gotta play something for those 60-year-olds that are still watching cable.
Scott:But anyhow, Graham, how was your weekend, dude? I mean, we're sitting here Sunday night, you know, watching the Ravens and the Patriots.
Graham:What'd you do this weekend, you know, before we even start about uh, you know, weekend was good. A lot of work, actually. You know, holiday season is uh upon us. As we know, we got Christmas next week, so a lot of holiday parties. Uh, and now Saturday was pretty much my last shift for the next two weeks. Nothing during Christmas, nothing doing New Year's. So nice time to relax. And other than that, just been watching Ball Man. What else is there to do? Well, that and some online shopping for Christmas last minute, but you know is is uh is Tatum coming into town? Yeah, she comes in tomorrow night. So we're gonna pick her up tomorrow. So yeah, it should be good. And then we have another uh family friend that's coming into town uh on Christmas Day to spend with us, so it's gonna be a good time here at the Cohen household.
Scott:So I know we're gonna do throw another show out there before New Year's, but something I saw yesterday, I guess Vegas is not doing a crazy fireworks show this year on New Year's. They're gonna do the drone, this crazy drone thing on New Year's. Yeah, I was reading it yesterday. I mean, whatever. It's the new way of the world, you know. I've been to amazing places for New Year's. I've been to New York City twice, I've been to Vegas once. They both suck. I mean, they're awesome. They're awesome. Don't get me wrong. It's awesome. But dude, New York, obviously, the best part about being in New York City, my boy Lapo, best man at my wedding, his sister had an apartment right there two blocks from Times Square. Yeah. So we could go on the roof of the apartment complex and see all the festivities.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:But as we're on the balcony, noon, we're watching everybody start walking down to Times Square, and they literally block you in. Yeah. Been to been to Vegas once, and it was it was cool, but dude, starting at like eight o'clock, you can't get a bottle beer, everything's in a plastic cup, and you know.
Graham:You know, it's funny you bring that up. I, you know, for a long time, you know, when you're younger, you're watching it on TV, you're like, dude, that looks sick. I would love to go there. But with a lot of things in life, just because things look cool on TV does not mean that it is cool, or you just don't understand what actually happens when you're there. I mean, I've had friends that have gone and they're like, bro, you're in this crowd, you can't move. Or like, or if you do, you're not coming back. People are just getting drunk and pissing on their leg, and it's just like, it's just a shit show. So, like what you see on TV, yeah, that looks great. You're like, oh, I'd love to do that, but then you're just like, eh, what happened?
Scott:It's great if you're Ryan Seacrest and you come and go as you please, or Dick Clark, or you know, I mean, it's way different. Yeah, hey, no, I'm just gonna quote, I'm gonna quote our boy Justin Parker, and this is classic, and I hope he listens. He used to always say, be like, You going out for Halloween tonight? No, dude, it's amateur hour. And I'm like, what do you mean, amateur hour? He goes, I don't need to drink beer because it's Halloween. Professionals do it whenever they want.
Graham:You know what's crazy? This is the first year. Well, I'd say the first year that I've legitimately thought about it. The biggest drinking day of the year, didn't even think about it. Just like flew right over my head. You know what day that is?
Scott:Day before Thanksgiving.
Graham:Yeah. Like, dude, when you're younger, especially, you know, in your 20s and stuff, you know, even early 30s, you're going back home, you got your friends coming to town, you're going out to the bar. I mean, dude, the parties, you know, my my ex-roommate used to have, I mean, ragers. Ragers.
Scott:Dude, it was always awesome. Come back from college, all your high school buddies, you meet up day before Thanksgiving, you beat up the next day, and you sit around and wait for that nasty dry ass turkey.
Graham:You shut the front door.
Scott:I had to throw that jab in there, you know.
Graham:Just because you your family's cooked dry turkeys doesn't mean it's miserable. You know, for me, uh, you know, when my grandma was still alive, we were living back in PA, my grandma was just like, I'm tired of this, but cooking all the time. Or, you know, we're going to a buffet. So we go out, we live next to um a ski resort. They put out this spread that's just like, how can you eat all this shit? I mean, it's amazing, don't get me wrong. They have everything there, and we would do it every year. But the thing is like, we would do it for Thanksgiving, then we'd go back to my grandma's house, we would have food there for afterwards and chill, and then we'd do it for Christmas as well. But bro, there was a handful of years in my 20s that like, and we're at the resort eating the food, and my grandpa's just looking at me across the way and he's like, You all right? And I'm just like, I'm looking like this, I'm like, uh he's like, Rough night last night. I was like, uh, you know, I'm alright. He's like, Wait, what time did you get in? And I was like, uh, I mean, I lied and said yes. I lied and said one, and it was like five. And of course, yeah, you know, my grandparents want to do their want to have it for brunch, so like we're meeting at the place at 11:30 in the morning, and I'm just like, oh my god, why? And my mom's just like, Really? You had to come in at five, and I'm just like, Ma, leave me alone.
Scott:Yeah, it's all good.
Graham:It is what it is, it is what it is.
Scott:So we get off topic. That's the name of our game. Always. You're welcome.
Graham:Yeah. So don't blame me. So how was your weekend, bro?
Scott:Oh, it was good, dude. I uh yesterday woke up. Well, I had the day off yesterday, day off today. Yesterday went to Ava's swim meet and watched that. They dominated, obviously, they always do. Uh had a good time, came home. Kristen went to dinner with her friends from school, and I came home and hung out and watched the end of the AM Miami game and just watched football all day, dude. It was a good day, it was fun. Uh had Christmas with my dad and stepmom on Friday night because they left today, Sunday, to go to Ohio. Oh, dude, is Drake May hurt? Oh, Lord have mercy.
Graham:How does the mark how does the mark get hurt? They bring in Huntley and then they look better. Can you explain that to me?
Scott:I don't know, but his uh what are they what's he is it his leg? Oh, it'd be his knee. Yeah. Uh last time I checked the knee was part of the leg. But uh anyhow. Oh, fake putt!
Graham:Oh, and that was a dumbass play, and you fumbled it. Wow.
Scott:Oh man. Anyhow, if you like dumb shit.
Graham:What?
Scott:Like what so back to the weekend, dude. It was just, you know, getting ready for the holidays, heading up to my mom's on Thursday. Uh, we actually leave on Christmas Day. But uh, you know, watching these games and it's been amazing. I mean, if you're a sports fan, even if you don't have a dog in the fight, everything's been fun. You know, starting Thursday night with Seattle and the Rams, going into Bama and Oklahoma Friday night. I mean, but you know, let's just start it off, dude. The Rams visiting the Seahawks. It lived up to the hype, did it not?
Graham:Ugh, I mean, the second half in overtime.
Scott:That first half was a little boring, but I mean the Rams traveling up there without Devontae. You know, you you'd think the Seahawks, as good as their defense is, is just gonna triple team Puka. Yeah, that obviously didn't happen. Uh the Rams, you'd think we're gonna triple team in Jigbo. And that did in the first half, not having a catch in the first half. Oh, how did that change boy did that change in the second half? Holy moly, dude. It was insane.
Graham:I wasn't it like 10-10 at half or something.
Scott:Yeah, I don't I don't even remember, but and I wish don't quote me on this stat, but I think the Rams were up like I forget how many points with like five minutes left. It was like 16, wasn't it? 15. That's right, because they had to get one two-point conversion. That's right. Yeah, dude. And the punt return, Shaheed, like oof. You're like, oh my god, is this really happening right now?
Graham:And look, a couple of things with that game. I mean, before we even get to the ending, look, there was parts in that game Sam Darnold didn't look great. There was yeah, the crowd was not with his performance, and you could hear it in the you know on the telecast. And you know, the commentators are, you know, they're trying to pat him up a little bit and like, look, man, you know, he's still a good quarterback, he's still a good quarterback. And then what happened was Sam Darnold was just like, you know what? I'm gonna pull up my bootstraps, I'm gonna, you know, tighten these straps, and I'm gonna get it done here. And this was a game that I don't want to say the monkey off the back vindication, but like he hasn't had one of these games.
Scott:He need he needed it.
Graham:Like he's had games where he's dominated. Okay, great, but the Rams have been his kryptonite.
Scott:I mean, remember the first matchup, he threw four picks and they lost by what, two?
Graham:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, the couple picks that he threw on Thursday, you know, wasn't making wasn't really making some good throws. And then that fourth quarter, he's like, all right, boys, hold my beer. And uh I'm gonna take us down the field.
Scott:They scored 16 points in the fourth quarter.
Graham:Yeah, I I just uh good for him. I I mean I'm happy it was a good game. I was kind of rooting for the I I mean I didn't I I I can't say I have a dog in the fight. It was more of like a fantasy perspective. I mean, Kyron Williams, thanks for absolutely nothing. I mean, you got a little something. You know, you got decoyed with Blake, you know, with Quorum on that, on that touchdown that he got should have been his. I I just dude, I I went up the whole game. I'm just like, I'm going against Puka, and then the other, and then in the other matchup, my buddy has in Jigba. So he has no points in the first half in Jigba, and then just miraculously in the second half puts it together. Puka had a pretty mild first half.
Scott:Dude, in Jigba in the second half, eight catches for 96 in a 10. In the second half.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:And I mean, Puka 12 for 225? And two?
Graham:Like, they th they threw him a touchdown from the one yard line. I'm like, you can't give that to Kyron? Granted, you you gave him the chance, the the previous two chances, but that was from like the seven-yard line. He's right there. Just let him get in. You're gonna throw a quick slant? Really? Come on. Come on.
Scott:Dude, how good was the play though?
Graham:Oh, I if I look, if I didn't have a dog in the fight, it would have been great. If I wasn't going against Puka, I mean, this is the one time, you know. Look, I'm a firm believer when things happen for a reason. And it's just like, really, Devontae had to get that hamstring last week? Right. If Devonta was on the field, there's no way Puka's getting 45 or 49, whatever he got. Ain't no way.
Scott:Dude, dude, it's 30 to 14 Rams with 13 minutes and 34 seconds left in the fourth quarter.
Graham:Yeah. I mean takes them down the field, they get that first touchdown, and then one of the craziest plays on a two-point conversion, mind you, that the number one that the announcers have ever seen, both coaches, everyone that's watching, I'm texting you, I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Scott:The best part, the best part about that whole thing was after they call it no good, they go to commercial and they come back from commercial and they start explaining what they're looking at, and everybody's like, What the shit? And dude, who was it? I don't even remember who it was that picks up the ball in the end zone and is just nonchalantly handing it to the referee being polite, and then it's good.
Graham:I want to say it was the running back.
Scott:Was it Charbonnet? I think it was. I don't know. I think it was. But dude, that was the craziest part about it.
Graham:I'm still speechless, like like when you think about it, the biggest part of but of that play that coach was Charbonnet. Yeah. The biggest part of that whole play that coaches will talk about on film for the rest of the season and then into next season. Play till the end of the whistle. Yeah. Everyone stopped because they thought it was done. How I mean look look, it looked nowadays because of cameras everywhere, which we're happy about, but there's just so much scrutiny on inch by inch. Is that a catch? Is it not a catch? Is it forward? Is it forward momentum or for a forward pass? Is it behind the line? It's just like when it's a bam-bam play, that doesn't look like it's a behind the line pass.
Scott:Not when you're watching it live. That's what I'm saying. When they break it down, so it's a backwards pass.
Graham:Exactly. And so to the players on the field, just imagine when you're them. They're not, I mean, they're not gonna pick up Dopple, they're not gonna do anything. They think the play's dead.
Scott:All the like uh like I said, the best part about it, Charbonnet just picking it up nonchalantly. Here you go, referee. That was a failed two-point conversion. Oh no, guess what? You picked it up on the other side of the goal line. It's good. Yeah, y'all are tied.
Graham:The best part, he didn't pick like it wasn't like, oh, that's a live ball. I'm gonna take it in. No, he's just like, I'm a nice guy, I'm gonna hand the ball so you don't have to bend over and pick it up.
Scott:Exactly. It was awesome. And then McDonald, dude, going for two.
Graham:Let's go. You had to. Dude, it was sick.
Scott:It was good. I love it. I loved it, and I thought it was amazing. You know, amazing win. That whole division is insane with them, the Rams and the Niners. And dude, I guess with the Lions winning or losing tonight, Niners clinched a playoff spot. Yeah. I mean, geez, but dude, let's be all Henry. Oh. Anyhow, dude, Friday night, we get the first game, college football playoffs. We get Oklahoma hosting Bama. And dude, Oklahoma comes out and just lighten it up, bro. 17 to nothing lead. We're all like, holy shit, maybe Bama was a fraud. And then all of a sudden, I mean, dude, there was like nine minutes left in the second quarter, and Alabama had 12 total yards of offense. 12. 12. Well, what? 12. Dude. Oh. And then, dude, all of a sudden, you know they say momentum in sports. It's a real thing. Uh, the punter from Oklahoma forgot that his one job was to not only take the snap, but to also kick the ball. And he forgot to do that, and then bada bing, bada boom. Then the Oklahoma quarterback throws a pick six. It's like, oh man. And it was game over, dude. It was just like, wow. Couldn't believe it. Could not believe what you were seeing. But I don't know, man. The other games weren't as good. I mean, I guess they were. I mean, Miami and Texas AM, you know, real barn burner tied at 0-0 at halftime. Miami kicker missed three field goals, I think. I mean, I guess it was super windy at Texas AM. And dude, Miami ends up winning 10-3. Freshman running back scores, throws a pick. Yeah, I just saw it. Henry just scored all bets. Lose today? But, you know, that's part of sports, Scrum. I don't know. All I'm uh whatever. Dude. The other two games in college playoffs, Ole Miss hosting who they post to Lane, boat race 41 to 10. Best part about that whole situation is somebody posted it last night. Dude, Ole Miss wore the one uniform combo that Lane Kiffin hated. In the first game after all that Lane Kiffin drama. Is that any good? Shots fired by Ole Miss. Whoever decided to do that, you're welcome. You deserve a pat on the back.
Graham:I mean. Yeah. Right. I guess. I don't know. It's just this whole college football playoff season this year, it's just. There's just so much hoopla.
Scott:Yeah, but better than last year when you got Boise State getting a bye and then boat raced by you guys in the second round.
Graham:No, I mean, I I get it. I'm just saying, like, are we in a better place than what it was 10 years ago? And you had all those insignificant bowl games. Well, I mean, not insignificant, but it's just like the the thing is now, do all the other bowl games do they like they mean absolutely nothing?
Scott:Like they didn't mean anything 10 years ago either.
Graham:No, but yeah, but at least you could say you're going to a bowl game.
Scott:That's it's not about meaning something, it's about getting publicity for your program. It's about being on TV, it's about getting recruits.
Graham:I mean, yeah, yeah, but they put a lot into oh, Michigan is one how many Rose Bowls, Penn State is one, you know, it's like the like the the big ones. I'm saying all the you know, the recent ones where it's like, oh, this is the Mighty Key bowl or this is the Chick-fil-A bowl.
Scott:Who? Like, yeah, yeah. Well, of course, nobody cares about those games unless you went to that school.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:You know, or in but but for recruiting, you can't be mad at it.
Graham:Yeah, there ain't no recruiting now. It's show me the money.
Scott:Speaking of show me the money, a homeboy from Old Dominion, you know, the quarterback I've been telling you about forever. Yeah. Uh that's entering the transfer portal, visiting Florida tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, crazy. But anyhow, last game, Oregon, JMU. Don't even need to really talk about it. I mean, JMU 23 point underdog, backdoor covered in garbage time to cover the game, you know, lost 51 to 34. Hey, whatever, dude. Uh I don't get it. I don't uh it is what it is. Next year, I think it's gonna be different. I think we're adding a couple teams, but you know, it is what it is. Let's just talk about next week. Okay, that's all that matters because we don't need to talk about, you know, we've we've talked about them enough, you know.
Graham:Yeah, I mean hold on. I I I gotta say one thing, especially after those first round of games. You know what, Nick Saban, shut the F up. I'm just like, oh, Notre Dame should have been in it. This is this is a disgrace, and da da da. I'm like, yo, join a conference, bro. Like this all it's uh you can't we we beat the Notre Dame thing to death. It's just when I heard him say, oh, it's especially after how the games won, he's like, well, you know, Notre Dame would have won. It's like they're a good team. It's like, yeah, and if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. What's your point?
Scott:Dude, speaking about that, my boy beating the bookie sent out a tweet tonight. Uh I'm pretty sure that's my quote, bro. And uh I'm pretty sure I got some kind of copyright bullshit with that. So you'll be hearing from my lawyer. And that lawyer is also the main lawyer for BCB clothing, so you gotta watch your ass. Uh anyhow, let's just jump right in, dude, to next week. Uh Miami, Ohio State, Buckeye's favored by 10. Oregon, Texas Tech, Oregon favored by one and a half. Bama, Indiana, Indiana favored by seven. Ole Miss, Georgia, Georgia favored by seven. My one thing I'm just gonna go out there and say right now. I like Miami to cover the ten. Ohio State's gonna win. Really? Ohio State's gonna win, but Miami's gonna cover the ten.
Graham:I'm a little surprised by that. Only because of how confident you were in Texas AM this year, especially into the playoff.
Scott:And then not Texas AM, Texas Tech is who I've been confident in. Miami's defense is legit.
Graham:Okay.
Scott:Really legit. I mean, like I said, Ohio State is gonna win the game. I think. But I like Miami to cover the 10. The next game, dude, on the docket, Oregon, Texas Tech, Oregon minus one and a half. I truly believe whoever wins that game, and you can write it down right now. You heard it here first on as Buckeye would always say, roller derby. Whoever wins the Texas Tech Oregon game will face Ohio State in the national championship.
Graham:I I mean, Oklahoma Oklahoma slap myself. Oregon has a lot to prove. The fact that they got bounced early last year, they're playing good. Granted, the competition that they played this season hasn't been as strong as you know the previous years, but I I mean, do they win it all? Probably not, but I think they'll I think they'll beat Texas Tech. I really do. Um I'll say this. Indiana, you've been a well, I I was gonna say they've been a Cinderella story, but they've lost what two games in the last year, in the last two years, so how Cinderella can you be? That being said, seven-point favorite though, against Bama? Yes, but what Bama team is showing up? The first half Bama team or the second half Bama team?
Scott:Or the Bama team that got boat raced by Georgia.
Graham:That's like I I'm I like look, I've said this before. It would be unbelievable for obviously Indiana's program, but I think it'd be beneficial for college football if Indiana could win. Yeah. They are the losingest team in college football history. For them to finally win. It's like, you know, when you're thinking about going to college when you're younger, there's certain schools you're like, all right, that's a baseball school, that's a football school, that's a basketball school. With NAL now, it's like that's not the case. I mean, you you'll have the blue bloods, you know, you you'll have the certain teams.
Scott:Well, you take Sig you get Signetti there from JMU, bring in all his players and his coaches.
Announcer:Yeah.
Scott:Changes the culture.
Graham:Yeah. Dude, I mean Dude, did you hear what's what's the guy's name? Uh the coach from Arizona State.
Scott:Oh, what's his name? Winningham or something like that?
Graham:He's so basically, you know, he's a hot ticket, right?
Scott:Yeah, but he's not going anywhere. Well, that's not going anywhere. And that's what I always said when we were talking about who's going to be the next Michigan coach, and he was one of the favorites. Uh, do you not know this guy's bio? That's what I'm saying. Obviously, you don't if you're thinking he's going to Michigan. Homeboys, he grew up three blocks from Arizona State. He blew up three blocks from Arizona State. His parents still live in that house. He played at Arizona State. He ain't going nowhere, bro.
Graham:Right. And that's my point. So, my point in bringing this up was I just saw a clip on YouTube or Instagram, well, whatever it was, uh, where he re-signs his deal, and then he's basically talking to a reporter, and he's just like, hey, I want to compete. I know we're a I don't want to say a smaller school, you know, we're not a big name program, but he's like, this is Phoenix, Arizona. There has to be, he's like, there's money here. He's like, he like, he basically looked into the camera, was just like, I know there's a lot of people that have got money in this town. We need 20 million dollars if you want to make this program a thing. And like he looked at this camera, and I was just like, bro, he ain't wrong.
Scott:He ain't wrong, dude.
Graham:And there and hey, and Scottsale, there's a lot of money.
Scott:Like, there you go, dude. Two-point conversion. Oh, there's a slide on the player. But yeah, no. I mean, they were in the playoffs last year, remember?
Graham:That's what I'm saying. You don't think of Arizona State as a pro a football program? Like, yeah, they're all right.
Scott:They're golf and baseball.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:Holding on the defense. That's decline. Two points are good. Uh, anyhow, like I said, whoever wins the Oregon Texas Tech game, in my mind, plays Ohio State in the championship. Yeah. So whoever wins the Oregon Texas Tech game plays the Indiana-Alabama game. And then you got Ohio State playing Miami, Georgia playing Ole Miss, so you obviously know what I think. Uh without the spread, who do you like in those games? Just picking winners, obviously. And then we'll then we'll go straight into NFL.
Graham:Alright, for if I'm picking winners and I'm going down the line, I'm taking going with the heart here. I'm going Oregon, I'm going Indiana, Ohio State, and man. Um if Lane Kiffin was there, I'd take Ole Miss. But they're playing with house money.
Scott:Uh Dude, the best thing is Lane Kiffin got paid yesterday for winning a playoff game for Ole Miss.
Graham:Ho ho!
Announcer:Let's go.
Scott:Part of his incentive. Uh the feel-good story, dude, is Ole Miss. Yeah. Right? Yeah.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:That's drama.
Graham:That's karma. Yeah. How do you pick someone until they haven't proven it? So it if you're just going off like who's shown it to me in the past, I'm gonna take Georgia.
Scott:I agree. It it sucks, you know, and Buckeye and I've talked about it. It just sucks that when Ohio State wins and Georgia wins this next week, they play to go to the national championship. It sucks they can't play in the national championship. But, you know, whatever. It is what it is. Like beating the bookie, copied your boy. If my own had balls, you know what she would be.
Graham:Could you imagine in a perfect world if there was a rematch of the uh Big Ten Championship? Hey, could happen, bro. Wouldn't be surprised if it did. No, no. At all.
Scott:At all. Dude, that was a hell of a game. I yeah. If that Ohio State kicker was practicing his kicking instead of delivering pizzas, it might have happened. But uh anyhow, dude, you know, it's December, and the NFL starts playing on Saturdays in December, and we got to see Washington and the Eagles last night. We're not gonna talk much about this, but Eagles obviously boat raced, won the NFC East. Second, I can't remember the stat. Second team to go back to back in the NFC East in like how many years? That's insane. That's insane. It's ridiculous to think about that. But, you know, Mariota got hurt. It's crazy. Now they host uh Dallas on Christmas Day, four days later in Washington. But, you know, the game last night we all know that Chicago and the Packers. And before we even start talking about this game, I'm just gonna rem remind people that I ate crow. Okay.
Graham:Oh shit.
Scott:Yes, you've said it a hundred times. I've eaten crow. It's amazing what adding offensive linemen does to your team and a head coach that can change the culture. Dude, I don't know if you saw the locker room celebration for the Bears last night or today. The best part about it was when Ben Johnson was giving out game balls. The last one, he goes, All right, Caleb, you're not getting it. I love you, but you ain't getting it. And he gave it to DJ Moore. Somebody that's been with the team for a while and got hurt earlier in the game and came back and made that catch.
Graham:It's fair.
Scott:He also gave it to the dude that recovered the onside kick. Obviously.
Graham:Look, I was at work when this was going on, so I'm only able to watch like a little bit here, a little bit there. I didn't realize until after the game was over. I saw highlights and I was like, wait a minute. They got an onside kick? Because I'm like, I'm doing the math. I'm like, how'd they I'm like, how'd they get the ball back already? I'm like, there was four minutes left. I'm like, what's going on right now? And then when I saw that, dude, onside kicks, especially this year. They don't know, dude. I was gonna say there's less than five. I I can only think of two off the top of my head all season that have been converted. They don't happen. That's what I'm saying. So the fact that it happened, I mean, look, it's all how the cookie crumbles, the way the ball bounces. I I I mean, look. I'll say this. If there's an organization that has been hungry, starved, deprived, what they've had gone through being a Bears fan these last umpteenth years.
Scott:Just year after year after year after year after year.
Graham:Dude, and the playoff, the met with Mac Nagy, the field goal, the botch field goal. Like, just so many things.
Scott:Jay Cutler and his Ingram fingernail against the Packers in the NFC and he championship.
Graham:Just so many things that it you know, your little segue. I really thought when you were talking about coach and offensive line, I thought you were into a little segue because of your chargers. But you know, you're right. Having the right head coach, you know, bringing the O-line. Like we said they had pieces last year, like but zero O-line. But yeah, but what they brought over into this year with the new coach, look, anyone that says coaching doesn't matter is full of shit.
Scott:Dude, like Caleb Williams has 3,400 passing yards. Yeah.
Graham:Yeah. Dude, he he looks like a completely different guy. And my thing is this, remember what we were talking, especially about Caleb Williams and how poorly he was playing in the preseason, where it was like, oh, this is gonna be you know a work in progress. And then he slowly was doing better, slowly doing better, and then all of a sudden it was just like a light turned on. It was like, oh, hey, is this how you play? Is this what I gotta do? Do that, do this, do that.
Scott:Oh, I mean, they've had some amazing comebacks. Let's don't forget that part. But that's part of the game. Oh, I mean, like I said, Caleb has 3,400 passing yards. The Bears have never had a 4,000-yard passer. Is it gonna happen this year? I mean, what do they have? Two games left.
Graham:Dude, I mean, if you think about the quarterbacks of that franchise, they're I don't want to say their best quarterback, but like their best quarterback to throw the ball was Cutler.
Scott:Possibly.
Graham:Who's a better thrower?
Scott:Yeah. Dude, they got and they got the Niners on the road and then the Bears or the Lions at home. Is he gonna get 600 yards in those two games?
Graham:Uh it'd be tough.
Scott:I know. Uh it'd be tough.
Graham:I dude, and the thing is, look, Lions got eliminated today. So what are they gonna? I mean, are they gonna play spoiler last week?
Scott:Are they they got eliminated? Are you sure they're eliminated?
Graham:Well, they basically would need the lot, they would need the lot of shit to happen. No, they need the Packers to lose out is what they would need. And they have to win out, Packers have to lose out.
Scott:Dude, Packers got the Ravens next week, too.
Graham:Sweet baby Jesus, please.
Scott:Yeah, but anyhow, dude, that game last night was crazy. Overtime. I mean, the walk-off to DJ Moore. Wow. That's all you can say. Wow. But I don't know, man. Let's just jump right in. Sunday. Today's games. And I'm just gonna go back a little while before we start. You know, when the Chargers got boat raced by the Jaguars heading into our bye week, looking at our schedule and what every Charger fan called the Gauntlet, it was like, dude, we're toast for the end of the season. I said it on this show with the remaining five games. I can see one definite win in the Raiders coming off the bye, maybe two total. Yeah. Because we went after the bye, went Raiders, then Eagles, then Chiefs. Obviously, Kermit got hurt, and then going to the Cowboys and the number one offense, and um pretty sure we just went four and oh in those games. And I'll be the first person to say, wow. And starting to talk about different things, you know, the Chargers obviously play in the Dallas, Dallas as the top offense in the league. Uh the Chargers haven't given up a point in the second half in two weeks. A stat I saw in the first quarter that really made me go, holy shit. The Chargers have more interceptions this year on defense than passing touchdowns allowed.
Announcer:I don't even know what to say to that.
Scott:The Chargers have not allowed a 300-yard passer all year. Dude. And you know, going into this week, I was talking to you about it the other night. Through, you know, through week 15, yards allowed per game, number one team in the league, Texans with 269, Chargers 279 at number two. Everybody wants the crown. The Broncos, oh, they're sitting there, whatever. And then passing yards allowed per game. Browns are actually number one for the least amount of passing yards allowed in the game. Chargers are number three, 174. The Cowboys sitting down there at 254 in 32nd place. And all I could think was Herbert's gonna have a day against the against the Cowboys. And boy, my boy Herbie have a day. You know, Cowboys get the ball first, go down the field, score a tutty. We answer them. Then they scored another pickens wide open. They kicked the field goal, and that was the end. The Chargers and their offensive line that couldn't block me or you didn't allow a sack today. Dude. Herbert had 300 passing yards, two tutties. Uh, don't forget, he had 42 rushing yards. Yeah.
Graham:And I'm most of it on that one play. Whatever. No, my point saying that is.
Scott:I mean, whatever is what it is. But this defense, dude, is peaking at the right time. And what happens in the playoff? You gotta be peaking at the right time. But you know, you're still not giving my boys credit where credit's due. So I told Rob and Trevor and Tyler I was gonna ask you this question tonight. Uh with Herbert, with Herbert doing what he's doing, bro, with that offensive line, with a broken hand, with all the above. How is he not mentioned in the MVP race? Imagine him not in the MVP, the most valuable player, right? Imagine him not on your team. How many wins does the Chargers have? How many times have we played the Raiders? Twice? Two? Exactly. And Rob, Trevor, TP, here comes the hate. When I asked TP this question.
Graham:I'm sorry, hold on a second.
Scott:When I asked TP this question, his answer was number one, West Coast hate. Number two, his name's not Patrick Mahomes. Number three, he has thrown more interceptions this year in the past. Number four, not on the Broncos or Patriots. Number five, Stafford is in LA. Number six, West Coast hate. Number seven, Chargers hate. Number eight, Chargers hate. Number nine, Chargers hate.
Graham:So the front runner, is he not in the West Coast? Yeah, because he has all these amazing options in front of him. Well, no. Okay, hold on.
Scott:The MVP of the league should be the most valuable player for their team. And Herbert is that fucking guy. Wow. All right. Rob first Trevor TP. We've got him signing. He doesn't have an answer.
Graham:No. I got I have an answer. You won't like it, but I got an answer.
Scott:Okay.
Graham:Alright. A couple of things. Number one.
Scott:We're just gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. Shake it off. Shake it off. Ooh, ooh, ooh.
Graham:I thought you don't support the Travis and Taylor. Anyway, um, a couple of things. Number one, I'm sorry. Who who has been a season ticket holder who has a Herbert jersey? Thank you. Um look, I I think a lot of him not getting credit is the fact that he I got him speechless, folks. No, no, no, no. I'm trying to think of the right way to say this. And not sound, you know. The Chargers having the string of wins at the these last, what'd you say, five in a row now? Right? Four in a row?
Scott:Uh four after the bye, yeah. Four?
Graham:That's kind of catapulted them to a spot where you're like, oh, they're noticeable in their record.
Scott:What about when we started three and oh and he made that pass against Denver to beat him? That's not good. I mean, how many quarterbacks are in the NFL playing with a left hand that's broken? Stiff arming dudes.
Graham:Yeah, which is why he's only playing six more years and is going to retire because he's broken down.
Scott:But is his name Jackson Dart? Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't hear that part.
Graham:I I just think look, I can understand your argument, especially from diehard Charger fans. Of course you're gonna say that. On a national level, I I I think it's a story of where you kind of have to see the evidence body of work put in front of you comparative to the other players, and be like, all right, I can see he's been sacked more than any player in the NFL this year.
Scott:He's been hit more than any player in the NFL this year, and we still got a chance at the one seed in the AFC.
Graham:Yeah, well, I I'm gonna eat my word saying this, but I hope it doesn't happen because I want a rematch.
Scott:No, you don't.
Graham:Yeah, I do.
Scott:You really don't mean that.
Graham:I I swear to God I mean that. Swear.
Scott:I dude I'll take it. Let's go. I would love to play you guys in the first round, trust me. I mean, just saying. I'm just saying, dude. The the thing that sucks the most is you know, mentor doing with our defense what he's been doing. Everything I keep reading is he's gone. You know, he's the front runner, from what I'm hearing for the Titans next head coach. Which sucks.
Graham:Why?
Scott:I hope he doesn't go. I yeah, dude, I I don't know.
Graham:No, I'm saying why Tennessee? What your former what McCoy has done there is kind of impressive with the lack of talent around him. I think he should stay the coach and then just build upon what they have going on. I really do.
Scott:Oh, let's go, Patriots.
Graham:We needed that. It was fourth and two, by the way.
Scott:I know, I know. I'm not trying to stress on the game. But anyhow, dude, we got the Texans at home Saturday. We got the Broncos week 18. You know, the Broncos losing today sets up things where the Targers control their own future.
Graham:Yeah. Yeah.
Scott:You win Saturday, which is gonna be tough against the Texans, and then it sets up week 18. I mean, the Broncos are gonna beat the holy living crap out of the Chiefs on Christmas. But it sets up week 18, dude, winner take all for the division. Maybe the one seed. You're telling me that game ain't getting flexed to Sunday night.
Graham:Yeah, Jesus.
Scott:You're probably whatever. Um I just mess with you. Yeah, I know. But you know, we we clinch a playoff spot if the Colts lose tomorrow night. Don't want my boy Phillip to lose to the Niners, but sorry, Philip, I want you to lose. Uh sorry, not sorry. But anyhow, dude, let's let's move on. Uh Bill's struggle, dude, today in Cleveland. You know, Miles Garrett got a half of a sack right to tie the record. So he needs one with two games left. Guaranteed he's gonna get it against Rodgers. Guaranteed.
Graham:Oh let's go!
Scott:He's in. Uh you know, not much to really talk about right there, except the Bills, like, you know, I just I don't have the faith in them. I I just don't. I mean, not taking anything away from them beating the Browns, because obviously we know the Browns defense is stupid good. But, you know, Panthers. Go ahead.
Graham:What I was gonna say is that this is kind of a perfect segue. We've talked about it off air. I don't think we've talked about it on. Um, look, the Buffalo Bills, Josh Allen, the reason why I'm bringing this up is everyone's saying that the Bills window is closed, right? Uh it's not closed, but it's halfway there. It's halfway there. My point in bringing that up is this if there ever is a time, especially with the landscape of quarterbacks in these last couple of years, that the eyes are on him, let's think about this, folks. No Mahomes, no Burrow, no potentially no Lamar Jackson. You know, you're you're going up against, and this is not a knock, but it's just like because people don't have they don't think just because nationally people don't think Herbert as the top top tier. Yeah, I know. I'm just saying Herbert Bonix, uh, you know, uh Blondie Lawrence down in Jacksonville, it's just like he's look, he's still the MVP, technically, so it's just like with who's in the AFC right now, he's the best quarterback. By I mean, based on whoever's opinion you want to hear, listen to. I'm not getting into that argument. I'm just saying that from conversations outside looking in, it's just like, hey, bro, this is this is your chance. Is this your best team that you've that if yeah, if this is this the best team that you've brought to the dance? No. But if there if there's a time to do it, you know, this is it. And look, there's some there's a couple of matchups where if things happen, Jacksonville. What? Dude, Buffalo might have if things ended how they are today, Buffalo would have to go to Jacksonville.
Scott:It's crazy. What dude, Jacksonville, I told you last week, dude, they're solid. They're solid. And they showed it today. I mean, did they not? No, I'm not saying they didn't. On the road in Denver, and dude, that place, you know, after the Chargers game was over, I threw on red zone. Dude, that place was on fire. The cameras, the cameras were shaking, dude, because that place was on fire.
Graham:And dude, what do you think it's gonna be like in Duval?
Scott:Not not like it was in Denver, I can promise you that. I'm just saying, like, I don't like their chances there. I dude, Liam Cohen has his team fucking. Is that your uncle, by the way? Cohen? I wish. I mean, between him and Stevie Cohen, I mean, you got some can you be like, bro, can I get a little cash right there?
Graham:Yeah, a little sell some.
Scott:Speaking of, dude, Badger, like I didn't win the Powerball. Badger didn't win it. Badger texted me last night, dude. If I win, you're retired. I didn't win. God damn. Son of a bitch. But anyhow, uh, dude, that Jaguars team, man. You know, looking at the AFC right now, you got Broncos 12-3, you got Patriots 11-3 right now, still playing. They're about to be 12-3. Jaguars 11-4, Steelers 9-6, Chargers 11-4, Bills 11-4, Texans 10-5. Dude, with two games left, a lot of shit can happen.
Graham:Yeah, it's just the problem is the Patriots have left the Jets. Yeah, and my last game.
Scott:Yeah, there's so they're yeah. They're finishing 13-3. You know, and just remember eight and a half total wins. Your boy's a winner.
Graham:Oh! Let's go!
Scott:Patriots just got that, fumbled. Let's go! Let's go! But dude, you know, going down the notes, you know, Panthers host in Tampa. The world did not give Panthers any hope of winning this game.
Graham:They haven't given them hope all season, let alone this game.
Scott:Dude, I mean, I'm so pumped for Panthers fans.
Graham:Dude, it was a knockout. I mean, not a knockout, I mean, it was a punch-for-punch fight, the whole game. It was. I mean, it was close. They were fighting. It was, I mean, it was one of those games that like if there weren't other games on, that would be a game that I'd be like, you know what? On the second TV, I would put that up right now, type of thing. It's just it was or should I say, when I'm watching Red Zone, I wish it showed more of that more of that game type of situation. It was wild and game. It was back and forth. And you know, I always say, especially when it comes to fantasy football, I'm not big on Ricky wide receivers, but I you know, there's certain players I didn't have faith in coming into this year, especially in fantasy. JSN at the top of the list, but then also McMillan. I'm just like, yeah, he's coming from Arizona.
Announcer:Like, like, all right.
Scott:But the dude's a stud. Yeah. I'm keeping him over Marvin Harrison Jr. in CBS. Facts. Facts. I I so I mean I mean, we're sitting here right now. We got they play again in two weeks. I it's so stupid. I don't get it. We we got two weeks left, and the Panthers are in the four seed. Seahawks one, Bears two, Eagles three, Panthers four, Rams five, Niners six, packers seven.
Graham:I'll tell you one thing. Rams want revenge in Carolina, I'll tell you that.
Scott:I'll tell you right now, if it ends with the five and four with Rams and Panthers, watch out, Panthers.
Graham:Yeah, they come in heavy. Watch out, bro.
Scott:Watch out. But anyhow, we're all we're a long ways into this, and we haven't even talked about your Steelers, dude. Dude, what a crazy game. All I'm gonna say is this I had to talk Graham off the ledge because he wanted to take the Lions and Survivor. I'm like, you can't do it. Relax. You can't do it, you can't do it. And he didn't. But, you know, let's go. Steelers got that dub. It was crazy at the end. I mean, crazy as shit. And the best thing about it, dude, you know, 19 seasons in the league.
Graham:Tom Lyn's got zero losing seasons. Yeah. And then if you add three more to that, Pittsburgh, they have the longest streak of being 500 or better. No losing seasons. 23 seasons.
Scott:Crazy game. Crazy game. The ending, the ending, dude. Wow, is all I can say.
Graham:I mean, I don't want to say it shouldn't have come down to it. I mean, homeboy should have made the field goal, but even still, if they would have got that tidy, they had to go for two. But look, if people, you know, if we had some loyal fans or even myself.
Scott:Don't forget, in the first quarter, homeboy goes for on fourth and goal instead of kicking the field goal.
Graham:Oh, 100%. But that's that that doesn't surprise me. I mean, Dan Campbell I know it doesn't surprise you.
Scott:I'm just saying a nut.
Graham:Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Scott:That's a decision that loses the game ultimately.
Graham:Yeah, but I mean, you're not I I get that. What I'm about to say is this. If you've been listening for the last X amount of weeks, I've been an emotional roller coaster for my team. The ups, the downs, it's been ugly. We've had some bright spots, and then it's just like, hey, for most of the season, I'm like, hey, if we don't got a chance, if we're not making a deep run, what's the point of making the playoffs? Yeah, am I happy about the no losing seasons? Yeah, that's okay. Pat on the back, like whoop-de-doo. Well, you know, what happened the last four years? Wah wah wah.
Scott:And the thing about that is Tomlin's not going anywhere now.
Graham:Yeah.
Scott:I'll say this. Look at Drake May running his ass off.
Graham:Where I'm at now from where I was four weeks ago, when we had that brutal stretch of like four four out of five losses or whatever it was. I don't want to say, why are you giving me hope? But how Pittsburgh has looked these last three weeks, including today. I mean, granted, we beat Miami, that's a team we should have won, but it's not the fact that we beat them, it's how we beat them, right? I'm watching this game today, and for a for a long I'm gonna say brief moments, but like there was hope. And when I mean actual hope, it looked like the offense knew what the bleep it was doing. And on top of that, it looked like it was efficient.
Scott:It's it it is so y'all ran the ball well. Obviously, with Warren breaking off a couple, but y'all bite. Bottled up Gibbs and they're running. Yeah.
Graham:Dude, we bottled up Gibbs. St. Brown did nothing. Thank you. That I traded for him in fantasy and did nothing for me. Um, but that's not even it. I I can't believe I'm saying this, but you know what's really turned it around? Bringing in MVS and playing him and old ass Adam Thielen. Like, there's actual threat. I mean, like, I don't want to call them threats, but like you have veteran wide receivers that know where to be and have the instincts of where they should be. And when you're in the right place at the right time, A plus B, one plus two equals three. And I've noticed that defenses are playing us differently, they're not stacking the box. You know, the offense has looked, I don't want to say different, but it's dude.
Scott:Don't forget, don't forget this. Scotty Miller had three receptions today. He only had one going into today. And you're talking about and you're talking about Valdez Galen. Let's don't you know pump the brakes on him. He had one catch.
Graham:That's no no no, but it doesn't matter. Decoys are important.
Scott:Feeling four for 49. And let's don't forget about DK four for 42 after he punched the fan.
Graham:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's he's not playing next week. Um I'm just dude, mind you, we didn't have our two best pass rushers. TJ Watt, gone. Herbig, gone. So, like, I mean, Sawyer stepped up, other players stepped up.
Scott:As I'm watching your game, dude, and I I was like, Oh, I gotta remember this just to talk about in the podcast tonight. Sawyer, congratulations, you finally beat a team from Michigan.
Graham:Your shameless plugs are just unbelievable. Because that was epic.
Scott:Epic, epic. You know it was. It was epic. I mean, what? Oh my god. I I just look epic. Uh it was a great win. It was a great win for you guys. And now with the Ravens losing, what do you all have a two-game lead with two to go? Yeah. The division is yours. You're congratulations. You're getting the force.
Graham:Yeah. Until until next week we got that trap game at Cleveland. But you know, I dude, I'm it's gonna happen.
Scott:Are you playing Baltimore at home or on the road? Home. Yeah. It is what it is.
Graham:Dude, one of my favorite Steeler games was what was that seven years ago when we had to play the Ravens for the division, and it came down to when Ben threw the touchdown to Antonio Brown, they basically stopped him at the one, and Ed Reed is like holding on to him, and and uh Antonio just like takes like he's tackled by two guys, and he just extends his left arm over the goal line to get the double. Like the I I get it. I look one game at a time, one week at a time. If we take care of business next week, then yes, it is what it is. We can breathe sigh relief, and but the thing is, I don't really want to sit anyone in week 18 because we need momentum. I mean, I don't want anyone getting hurt, but like we the offense hasn't really clicked all season. We need more ways of being like, all right, we have confidence in what we're doing. You know, a lot of players, Darnell Washington was involved today, Pat Fryermouth was more involved today. Like, it's look, all I'm saying is this they've given me confidence, probably a little too much confidence. I with I'll say this. If I feel like we are a different team right now than the team we were four games ago when we played you on Monday night.
Scott:That was more games ago than that, but no, I you're getting better. And we're uh we're a different, we're a different team.
Graham:No, our defense exactly our defense is I mean, I I'm just saying, like, there's more confidence, and look, the main thing I hated about what we've done, and by we, I mean the studios the last X amount of years, it's like, okay, yeah, we make the playoffs, but then we just get waxed. Yeah. I at least have confidence. I have confidence now that if we make the playoffs, we won't get waxed at least. At least we have a chance to win the game.
Scott:Depends on who you play. I mean, I trust me at you.
Graham:Hey, hey, I'd love a crack at Buffalo again after what they did to us at home. Trust me.
Scott:That's why if the stars align, I'm just stars aligned, dude. Denver was exposed today. Yeah. And if you look at their schedule, look at all their one possession wins. Houston was exposed today. Uh, did you see what Ginty did to Houston?
Graham:Uh yeah, but here's a problem. Do you think I want to go to Denver?
Scott:No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, dude, Genty. Uh he had 24 carries for 128 yards and a touchdown, and he also had one reception for 60 and a touchdown. And dude, the Texans didn't have a touchdown on offense through how many quarters?
Graham:I mean they were favored by what? 14 and a half?
Scott:14 and a half, maybe, and every person in the world took them in survivor and was puckering up late in the game. Uh both of us included. Yeah, as we wrap up tonight, I'm just gonna. I talked about it a few minutes ago. Marvin Harrison Jr. Top five draft pick two years ago. The world is crowning you a generational talent. You said it earlier. The world is saying what?
Graham:He's the best wide receiver to come out.
Scott:I forget where in Arizona took him. It was top five, I believe. Four. Dude.
Graham:Dude. Hey, you know what I'll say to that? I'm hoping he's just the same iteration. He's Kyle Pitts, bro. Same Kyle Pit dude, Kyle Pitts coming out. Greatest thing since sliced bread. Fourth overall pick.
Scott:Kyle Pitts in his fourth year. Is he gonna get the fifth five-year tender? No chance. Dude, look what look what these dudes are doing in Arizona. Granted, Marvin Harrison's been injured. He dropped that ball tonight. In the end that hit him in the chest, and I looked at Kristen as we're watching the game, and I go, that dude was a top five pick in the first round of the draft.
Graham:Hey. Again, I guarantee you, Daddy, this summer is gonna be like, all right, son, we're fixing some shit. Like, he's like, now you're hurting my reputation, bro. Dude.
Scott:I don't know. Uh Graham, Christmas is a couple days away. I'm traveling to Connecticut. We got a fun, fun, fun New Year's episode for everybody lined up. And, you know, I don't know. I hope everybody has a great Christmas. I hope you all hang out with your family. I hope you all have a great time. And, you know, have your do your thing. But we got two weeks left of football. Kristen already texts my mom. Hey, FYI, Chargers play on Saturday. We're watching the Charter game on Saturday next week. Uh so don't make any plans. But, you know, shout out to Rob and Trevor. Went to Dallas today, got that second dub in a row. I talked to them both tonight, and I'm like, guys, we're on a roll. Y'all need to go to SoFi next week. I mean, let's go. And Rob was like, dude, if I could, I would. And Trevor actually said when Rob was taking a leak, Trevor said this next game against the Texans was the most money they got for their seats selling them. Yeah. But, you know, is what it is. And hey, Charger fans traveled, dude, to Dallas.
Graham:That's the biggest shocker for me out of all of it, to be perfectly honest.
Scott:I was shocked, dude. I mean, dude, you could hear on the telecast the let's go chargers chance.
Graham:I mean, I you know what it sounds like. I think it kind of sounds like the you know, the homies down in San Diego are like, well, alright, we got a chance now. Maybe uh maybe we'll uh support the team now. And it's kind of nice.
Scott:So dude, something something we didn't bring up as we get off here. Oh. Dude, I can't believe it's taken. I didn't bring it up earlier. The Saints dominated the Jets today, but dude, the Jets defense has not had an interception all year.
Graham:They're two weeks away from setting a record that will never be broken. And remind you, their head coach was the defensive coordinator for the Lions. Yeah, well, they also traded away Sauce Gardner, they traded away Quentin Williams. They their star wide receiver's been hurt most of the year. They're on a third-string quarterback. I'm just look, you gotta play with what you got. There's no excuses, I get it. Andy, go fuck yourself.
Scott:One interception.
Graham:One I get it.
Scott:You and I have the same amount of interceptions as the Jets, bro.
Graham:Hey, sometimes when things happen, there's no rhyme or reason. There's just like, it is what it is. Like, what am I to say to that?
Scott:There's nothing anybody can say. Nobody. Yeah. So on that note, Graham, get us the hell out of here. Merry Christmas, everyone.
Graham:Graham, I love you. Have a good one. Let's go. Scott, it's always a pleasure doing the podcast with you. Happy holidays to you and the fam. Have a safe drive up north. And hey, as the best homie always says, Bubba.
Scott:Good night, friends. Good night, Jets. Oh, when the Saints come marching in. Oh, when the Saints come marching in. Graham is probably gonna kill me for singing this. But Graham lost a hondo to Andy. Good night, everyone. Merry Christmas. I hope Santa Claus stops by. Boom!
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